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The following program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre recorded. I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast, What's Right, What's Left, is coming up right now.
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Thank you. This is what's right, what's left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. On this, well, from the legendary radio message, "What's Right, What's Left." On this thirteenth Friday, the thirteenth of November, 2026, and tonight, even though it's Friday the thirteenth, the folks, he's fit for the fight. The guardian of the gale, the gate, none other than the mighty Andrew is our producer.
That's right, Pastor. I am here. The guardian is ready, and after all these years, well, he's still standing against the darkness, and that's none other than Big John McTurnan.
Well, thank you, Pastor. Big John McTurnan, the darkness and showing the light. All right, there you go. You too, John. I was thinking, you know what?
That the forces of darkness out there have been trying to send you and me a message to back off. But the more I think about it, John, I don't think. I think that I think they were trying to kill us and they couldn't do it. I think that he that is in us is greater than he that is in the world, and God just didn't let him have it. That's what I believe now.
I believe if they could have, they would have. What do you think?
Well, Pastor Ernie, you know, and the listeners have been following a lot that's been going on, and obviously that we've been under attack, but the Lord has prevailed. Absolutely.
Well, that doesn't mean you know he. When we take a look at when the time he decides to call us home, we're going to go, okay? When when that happens, and and all of those, it's an honor. It's an honor to be martyred for the Lord's sake, isn't it? And so, and so, crown in heaven, temporary for the martyrs' crown.
Amen.
So in that sense, we're we're kind of in a win-win situation, huh? Yeah, yeah. You could look at it like that. Yeah. Pastor Ernie, I got a Bible verse here, Revelation twelve eleven, and they overcame him, Satan, by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony, and loved not their lives unto death.
Amen.
That's that. What? That's a great verse. Great verse. We're going to start tonight, John, and and but before we do, okay.
This is you know now. You and I, we're not superstitious, but we know the opposition out there, the forces of darkness. To them, this is one of their holy days, Friday the thirteenth, and so. Would you start us off with a prayer? Put on the full armor of God.
We start with an offensive prayer against the the deep state, the dark state out there. Yeah, Father in heaven, we thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to share the truth of your word and truth that's happening within the world. We ask your protection, Lord. We ask that the Bible says. That we operate under the blood of the everlasting covenant that you made with us on Calvary, we stand in protection under that blood covenant that you made.
We're asking for freedom to minister here, Lord, and protection, and we pray that will be a blessing to everyone that's listening—a great blessing. In Jesus' mighty holy name, Amen, Amen, Amen. Amen to that.
Well, we're going to be a blessing because we're going to start out with the words of the Lord Jesus Himself, and that is a blessing. And so, let's go here in Matthew chapter thirteen. Let's kind of take in verses at a time. Why don't you go ahead and read verses? Let's see.
John one through.
Well, read verses one through six.
Okay, Matthew thirteen. That's right. Yep, correct. The same day, when Jesus out of the house and sat by the seaside, and great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship and sat. And the whole multitude stood by the shore, and he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow.
And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the wayside, and the fowls came and devoured them up.
Some fell in stony places, and they had not much earth, and forthwith they sprung up. Um, hold on here. They sprung up, and because they had no depth of earth, and when the sun was up, they were scorched. And because they had no root, they withered away. All right.
So we go back and we start here in verse three, and when. He spake many things unto them in parables. This is the first mention in the New Testament John of parables. Did you know that? And so, yes, I did, Pastor Ernie.
Because in chapter twelve, it was a really a turning point in that gospel, the Lord's confrontation, Pastor Ernie.
Well, he goes on to say here. And when and when he sowed some seed fell by the wayside, and the fowls came and devoured it, them up.
Now that that seed was the word of God, wasn't it? Yes, it is. Yes, that's correct. And and so, those the fowls that have come to devour the word of God. Who who do you think they would be today?
False teachers, people of the world that can't stand the word of God and try and destroy it, hide it from people. The apostate preacher. I would just say one of one of our listeners sent me a text, a clip. And it was one of these female, who women apostate preachers, and she was just mocking the word of God, mocking the word of God, mocking Jesus for being the Lamb of God and the sacrifice. Just you know, now in this, it was an apostate church, just unbelievable.
But yeah, this is what they do: is they they try try try to destroy the word of God. And what would you say about the prosperity church, where they take and they twist the word of God, and they say that if you are sick and if you are ill, okay, and if you are poor, then then it's because you don't have any faith. It's because you don't have any. You don't really. You're really not a believer if you're poor.
What do you think about that?
Well, Paterni, you know that goes about. I mean, a huge sections of the world. There's tremendous poverty, Paterni, and you can see what the believers go through in India, for example, Bangladesh, those areas. I minister in Pakistan, the Nicely. You know, there and that they have space, but it depends upon how you can.
A lot of it depends upon where you are, Mr. Ernie, and have the opportunities, and so. Here, those in other words, they're saying no. If you're living in poverty, it's because you're not saved. You you don't have any faith.
You're not saved. Is what the what the the prosperity church is saying that God wants you to be healthy, wealthy, and wise. In that sense, if you're not healthy and wealthy and wise, how does that go along with say the Church of Laodicea?
Well, that's exactly what the church of Laodicea is. It's wealthy, and they think they don't need anything more because they're wealthy and they have a lot of the world's goods and things like that.
So that's all they need. And Jesus really, the Lord, really rebukes them in some strong, strong language.
Okay, so in their wealth, did they use that wealth to say that they are highly favored of God because of their wealth? Is that what they were saying? Yeah, I guess that would be it. That's proof. That's proof.
Yes, sir.
So when Jesus was asked why he allows the wicked, why the the wicked are allowed to prosper the way they do? His answer was that that they, in God's mercy, in God's mercy, He allows them a little pleasure for a short season. Meaning, after that, when they die, everything goes south forever, huh? Oh, yes, certainly. I mean, without the Lord, without repentance.
And the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, there is the future lake of fire.
Okay, verse six it says that when the sun was was up, they were scorched and because they had no root, they withered away.
So here, what does that mean? It means that there was no depth. The roots of the seeds didn't have any depth, so when the sun came up, the roots were like right on the surface, and the heat of the sun just—they withered up and died under the heat of the suns bearing down on them.
So, in other words, they were like superficial. If we if we say and we compare with what he was saying today, symbolism over substance. Those those professing Christians, those especially neo evangelicals, they put on a good a smiley, put on a good front as long as they can do it. They can do it comfortably as long as it doesn't cost them anything. In other words.
They're convenient Christians. They're they're they're out there. They're Christians, and they're as long as they can do it without any fear of being persecuted. How do they usually react when the persecution comes? When when the time comes.
To stand up, Jesus said, "Those that are ashamed of me before men, so shall I be ashamed of before the Father." So, when it comes and there's pressure, and they're put in jeopardy for their faith, what do they usually do? I would say, Pastor Ernie, they would cave. There's no depth, there's no strength in the spiritual strength, so they'll cave and like deny the Lord. Did we kind of see that in a way, in the sense, with this past election, those, if Christians, all Christians, all all Americans have an obligation to vote, because that if the vote affects everybody, and for those that decided, well, I'm just going to stay home. I'm not going to.
I could never vote for. A Democrat, but I'm going to stay home. And James four seventeen says, "For those that know to do good and do it not, to them it is sin." Would you place those people in in in a similar category?
Well, I would pass it. For me, you have to have you have to have a reason not to vote for a single Republican. All right, I could understand that. But to stay home and not vote, well, then they allowed evil to come to the surface and win.
Okay, verse seven. And some fell among thorns, and thorns sprang up and choked them. But others fell in a good ground, and brought forth fruit.
Some a hundredfold.
Some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. Do you do you remember the very first time that seed sowing was mentioned in Scripture? It was concerning Isaac bringing forth seed. In the very year that he sowed, it was a hundredfold, and the Lord blessed him. And so, Genesis twenty six twelve.
In fact, so verse nine: Who hath an ear, let him hear. Who hath an ear, let him hear. Ah, what does that mean? That's spiritual pattern. He who has ears to hear.
That to hear what Jesus the parable that he's teaching—that's what this is about. Let them hear.
So it's not just hearing the sounds, but hearing what's behind the sounds. What this parable means.
Okay. And the disciples came and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Well, we kind of just talked about that. But what do you what do you think? Why speakest thou? Parables.
Well, because he was speaking directly, Pastor Ernie, to the people, and they rejected him. And so, what he did was he pulled back from talking to them absolutely directly, and he spoke in parables, so that they really the truth was being spoken, but they couldn't understand it. That's because they rejected when he spoke directly to them.
Okay, so when you when you think about when you ask a lot of people about a parable, what is a parable?
Some of them get a little confused.
Some of them will say, "Well, it's like a a folk tale or a fable." Okay, some think that a parable is like a story that wasn't really true. But when Jesus spoke those parables in scriptures, we we see a number of situations where he was with with the parables exactly what had taken place, and so where usually all those parables, real life, real life situations, not fantasies, now no distortions of the truth. Do we see that scripture?
Well, the sower the seed is real. I mean that it lays out exactly what will happen. Thirty.
Okay. What about the parable? Instead of him saying, you know, talking directly to them, he uses a parable to talk to them, and they have to discern it.
So he, they rejected him.
So he stopped talking to them directly, and he made it difficult for them to understand the truth because of their rejection of the truth.
So, how do we know that when the parable of the rich man and Lazarus that that was a real life situation? How do we know that? What would would you think would be the greatest evidence of that? I don't think that was a parable, Pastor.
Well, it was, but he was saying, but it was a real life situation. It was. How do we know that that was the real life situation when he spoke into him? It's because he used. Go ahead.
Well, he used the name. There was a rich man and Lazarus. He Lazarus' name. That's that's the first tip off. And what other names did he use?
He used Moses, the Lord Moses. That was used in there. They have Moses and the prophets and Abraham. Abraham, oh yes, absolutely, Abraham, yes.
So, so we know that that was an actual situation there, but that's considered to be a parable.
Okay, and so you see here. He says, "When they asked him, even if it's a parable, Pastor Ernie, it's it's self-explanatory. It's it's like it's not a parable. It's well, it's a real life situation." But it was spoken. It's referred to in Scripture as a parable of Lazarus and a rich man, and so here, as we say in verse eleven, well, verse ten, and the disciples came and said unto him, Why speakest thou them in parables?
And Jesus answered them. Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Okay, for whosoever hath, hath to him shall be given, and he that shall have more abundance. But whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away that that he hath. Is he talking about faith there and believe faith? Yeah, I would say I think I think it is definitely. Yeah, that's what he's referring to.
So now here he goes on to say, therefore I speak to them in parables because they seeing see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Okay, and in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah. Isaiah which saith, By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed. Lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Now, is this exactly the situation we have today, from coast to coast in America? The Lord, yes, certainly it's really, really existed. Where the there's a hardness, there's a dullness, there's a deafness and a blindness pertaining to the word of God, and comparing it to how we're living right now, they can't make the connection. That thing. There was another, just a recent poll here that, in that Barna, that Barna group that does the polling.
And they wanted to poll adults, in accordance with the Bible, that have a genuine, a real world biblical view, a real world biblical view. And this is what I was being told today. A man came to me and said, "Did you hear? Did you see that poll?" I said, "No." What are you talking about? And he said, "The the Barna poll that came out." And he said, "For those that that have a real, in accordance with what the Bible teaches, world biblical view, of among adults in America, what do you think the percentage was?" Oh, a very, ah, very low percentage.
I think some of it depends upon the region that you are polling. But I I don't know ten fifteen percent maybe it was three percent three percent it's kind of I mean even for today even for today it's still kind of hard to believe isn't it But what is the what did they define what that biblical view is.
Well, the biblical view, I guess, would have been predicated on people taking a stand in accordance, say, with Hebrews chapter five and six. You know, holding to actually believing the fundamentals of the faith, believing, believing, actually believing, you know, without any doubts, the death, burial, resurrection of Christ.
Okay, today. You know, you and I are going to talk to people. They're going to give us what happens. You know, they more likely they're well, they do. They try.
They tell us what they think we want to hear.
Okay, but when they they take these polls and they're not talking directly with a human being, they're writing, they're checking a box, or then they're putting their comments. They're a little bit more forthcoming, a little bit more honest usually, and I'm afraid. That's reflected in our society today. It's um, and the pulpit is so weak. The pulpit is so weak.
But um, we'll be back right after this with more. You can hear it in the distance. You can feel it in the air. You can tell the time is coming. You can sense it everywhere.
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Speaking for the mighty Andrew, for Big John, and for my. Myself, we have been, are doing, and will continue giving our all, giving our all for the USA, for God first, God and country. And but first, I got to give this announcement real quick before we move on, and that is, you know, we I've got these people that keep telling me, Pastor, give the address of the church out, give the address of the church out. You know, we want to come. And I have one guy who actually he lives.
I mean, he can he can walk to the church.
Well, maybe a bit of for his age, it might be a little bit of a walk. But anyhow, and he keeps telling me I'm coming. I want to learn more. I got a lot of questions.
Well, if you're out there listening, you know who you are. And Jeff, I'm not going to say your name.
So, but you have to. Just do it. Quit telling me you're going to do it, and just get it done. And come to doers of the word. We start every Sunday morning at 9 a.m.
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We have a prayer. We go heavy, heavy duty into prayer. All you folks out there that send us hundreds of letters, we we read every single one of them.
Some of them are really hard to read, but we do, and we pray for you. If we can't understand everything, what we do is we pray God's blessings on on whoever's your name on that envelope. But we we really get hundreds because see, God answers prayer. He God does, and when people. That that spend the time in in sincere prayer, God answers it, and so we do that from from about ten o'clock, and that goes to about eleven, sometimes eleven fifteen.
The regular service starts at eleven thirty, and it goes till it ends, and then at five we have the evening service, and so. The address is Doers of the Word Church, one four seven eight one one four seven eight one, Sperry Road. That's S P E R R Y Road, Newberry. That's Newberry, Ohio, four four zero six five. And the phone number over there, if you want to call and say I'm on my way, where are you?
And then we ask you where are you, and then we tell you how to get to where you're at to where we're at.
Okay. And that phone number is. Four four zero three three eight one three six seven, four four zero three three eight one three six seven.
Now, saying after saying all of that, okay, I want to get into what we just read there, John. Boy, if that is not the problem, and you know that that's a major problem too, within the Republican Party, there's. There's a lack, a lack of backbone, intestinal fortitude. But here's something.
Well, let me ask you this, John, because you're one of the smartest guys we know. I mean, for sure.
Now, you notice lately, President Trump has been saying he's been saying this on his web and. He just says this: Patriots are in control. He he's putting his message out. He's posting this: Patriots in control, not our info. Just Patriots in control.
Three words: Patriots in control.
Okay. Then we're hearing from some of those at the Pentagon, and they're saying Patriots in control. Patriots in control.
Okay. Now. I'm hearing that that Ken Paxton there, he has got he has got a plan, and it has to do with Patriots in control, and so now something else has come up. Remember, forty five and Q, Q, okay. Then they went to QAnon, but and and people kept asking Trump.
QAnon simply meant Q over and over again, Q again, Q again. But they were asking Trump. Trump was asked. I never really paid much attention to this at the time, but he was asked over and over, "Are you Q?" And he never, he never said yes. There, he never denied it.
He never said he was there. He never said he wasn't. He never answered it. What do you think about that?
Well, Pastor E, I, I was aware of it, and I kind of watched a little bit of it at a distance of it. But if he was, I mean, the Democrats went crazy over QAnon. Remember? Yeah, they were. I mean, even like a year or so after they won the election, they were still bringing up QAnon, QAnon, QAnon.
And if he was connected to it, I think they would have brought that out.
Well, do you think he was? Do you think he was just pulling their chain? I don't know, Pastor E. But I do know if they could connect it because QAnon was some sort of a a demon to them. It was like, and they never defined it really.
They just mocked and made the QAnon QAnon. But I I don't think they ever connected it to anyone, Pastor E. They would have they would have brought it out about Trump for sure if they did.
Okay, do you know who you were? You know who John Solomon is. Yes.
Okay. The the investigator. Yeah. Well, well, he he's got an idea what what the Republicans can do right now. And here's what he has to say: President Donald Trump has already signaled he is willing to play offense in the final two years of his presidency, undeterred by deathcrats, election gains, and certain that doubling that doubling down on the most popular aspects of his agenda in his strategy for 2028 GOP comeback.
He says Republicans in Congress, however, have not shown the sort of swagger, even when they owned all three levels of power in Washington. They, they just didn't have any metal. I mean, just oh, they get you, you know, lukewarm to me. I can't, I cannot tolerate ignorance and apathy. I just can't.
And there was just no energy, lukewarm there from now. Not all of them. What would who would you say would the most The best senators we had in the Senate. I like Kennedy from Louisiana. I like Cruz from Texas.
I'm trying to think of the others. About Josh Hawley out of Missouri. Yes.
Yeah. Oh, Holly's big time. What about Bernie Moreno here from Ohio? Not that familiar with him personally. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, he's he's he's a real activist.
So we do have. We we do have. You know, I would say a handful. Maybe in this, I would say maybe we would have. A dozen in the Senate that I could say are actually doing their job.
What do you think, Republicans? I think that would be the outer limits of it. Oh, I'm having one of my senior moments the the older guy, the 93 year old, the longest running member of Senate right now. He's from Iowa. He's from Iowa.
I'm oh, I would Grassley. Grassley. That guy is, I think, tremendous. He he does a great job. Anyhow, so we do have a handful of them.
But anyhow, he goes on to say that. But in recent days, GOP lawmakers expressed in interviews with just the news, dozens more major ideas to pigeonhole the new. A democratic majority's rally, the MAGA base, and begin to make the case for independent young male black and Hispanic voters to return to the condition by the next presidential election. He says here are eight of those ideas. And he says, "This idea come up.
Well, he says, pass multi multi-year agency budgets for all key agencies that lock in federal spending until after the Trump leaves the office." I think that's a good idea. This idea came up more than any in the interviews, both because it erases the failure of the GOP to markedly reshape. And cut spending over the last two years, and because it would hamstring deathocrats from shutting down the government and enforcing their priorities in the twenty-seven twenty-eight. If two or three budgets were passed, and a reconciliation bill that requires only 51 GOP votes in the Senate, all of Trump's immigration, law enforcement, election integrity, education, military, regulatory reform, reform, and foreign aid priorities would be locked in, and he could simply veto any deathocratic efforts to reverse them. He goes on to say, the blueprint was already executed with homeland security budget passed this summer.
The similar roadmap for all spending bills could be followed to keep governmental funded until twenty twenty nine. No excuses, no shutdowns, and all GOP priorities locked in until a new president takes office. The most common ideas for the spending bills were locked in, and the elimination of U.S. aid. Boy, that U.S.
aid! What, what a, what a scam! What a real scam!
Okay, and wasteful foreign aid spending, reducing the Education Department to a shell. Of a federal bureaucracy sending tax dollars to the states in block grants, making voter ID and citizenship checks mandatory for all states that take food stamps, benefits, Medicaid, highway funds, FEMA, DOJ, or Homeland grant money, formalizing the environmental regulatory reform agenda enacted by executive orders, the EPA administration, Lee Zeldin, and the fully funded, the military, the FBI and the DOJ, and the immigration enforcement priorities he he campaigned on and won on. One number two put put downward pressure on interest rates by taking a decisive strike against the budget deficits and the depth. You know, Trump. When it comes to the economy, the economics.
You know. The guy knows what he's doing. He knows how to make money. He knows. And what do you think about the tariffs, John?
Well, I think the tariffs are good, Pastor Ernie, because it's not a level, not a level playing field. And how can the American worker compare to the Mexican worker or the Chinese? Or any of the Asian workers like that, and even you take Canada. I believe we, in the past, we had virtually no tariffs against Canada, and they had huge, huge tariffs against us.
So the the tariffs have a way of helping the American worker in a big way, Pastor.
Okay, so so how did how did people justify that? How we we allowed all these other countries to put tariffs on us, and we we actually know how it really works. How it really works.
Okay, in the past, it was because, well, they were saying, well, the our economy is so good, our country was so strong. We have we have a huge advantage when it comes to manufacturing and exportation, and then we should cut some of these other countries with lesser economies some slack. That's you know what they were saying, but when when it all comes down to it, just like with U.S. aid, with all of this money that was getting. Going to the so-called all these foreign countries, there was kickbacks, kickbacks, kickbacks, kickbacks.
Always going, one hundred percent to Democrats, one hundred percent to Democrats. Why doesn't anybody know that, John? Because the media is in league with them, and that the Republicans are. Muddled by by themselves, and who knows corruption within the Democrat Republican Party, but the Republican Party paternity just has it's like wheat. The Republican the Democrats have a cause.
It's very bad cause, but they have a cause, and the Republicans. Very few of them have a cause, Mister. Ernie. I, they just limp along, doing what they can to try and get elected and lose every so many years. And there's just something missing from the from the.
There's no fire. There's only in a handful, like we mentioned. There's only fire in their belly, Mister. Ernie. Does it does it seem like they're stupid, John?
I mean, yeah, it does. There's no, they don't have a cause. The Democrats have a cause, Pastor. Whether it's communism, now it's promoting Islam, wokeism, and all. They've got a cause, and very few, I think.
I may be wrong, but if the Republicans have that, like, real fire in them for pro life, um. You know, so and standing for the family unit. I mean, the Supreme Court in 2015 claimed homosexual marriage was a constitutional right. And where was the howling and crying from the Republicans? And and and for that matter, huge numbers of the pastors.
Oh, no place, no place, no place, no place. Has our Lord been more dishonored and disrespected than from the pulpit or what's supposed to be churches? There's, you know, there's no, no way would see more dishonor because of a lack of courage, of a dearth of courage, and you know, I've been told, you know, when you you keep saying that, it makes a lot of pastors very unhappy with you. Who cares, right? As long as God's happy with his best, Ernie.
Yeah, yeah. See, here's part of the problem. Marriage is very sacred to the Lord because that's the first, really. What are you going to say? That's one divine, divine institution, divine institution.
That's what it was, and that was before man fell into sin.
So he's based society on a strong family, you know, husband, wife, children. They love each other and all. And unfortunately, today it's whacked out for many reasons. But the church should have stood against that decision. They should be.
I mean, they should have been outraged. And was crickets right? Crickets.
Well, there was a handful. There was a small. You and I were speaking out against it. We were. I mean, we were shouting out, and there.
But there was others. There was. I. I. You know.
In fact, there was probably in the country hundreds of us. But the problem with the hundreds of us was only maybe one percent of those that should have been doing it, huh?
Well, right, right, and it boils down to a lack of the fear of God and a lack of understanding how God is is holy.
Now, you know, yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Pastor. That Supreme Court we have, and and I'm including the one we have today, has no fear of God. Oh, there's a few on there to do. But they can count, and they, you know, and they can count, and they, and they hear, and the same thing with all the politicians, you know, they they have no fear of God, but they can count when they get enough phone calls, when they hear it from enough people.
That's how they decide, for the most part, how to cast their votes. And and so it was the apathy of the people. If the people should have been enough for for fifty years, John, you know I've been preaching that that in in '62 when they expelled God from the public schools, the pastors had the duty, John, the duty, not just just not just the right, but they had the duty to march on Washington D.C. And and hold that court that was supreme only in its rebellion against God. Hold them and put them on trial for treason.
They committed treason against God and country. The pastors failed again. They failed again.
Well, Pastor Ernie. Peston Ernie, that issue, and it is sixty-two and sixty-three. Sixty-two was prayer, and sixty-three was Bible reading removed from school.
Now, Peston Ernie, that decision—the sixty-two decision—it said there was a separation from church and state.
So God was not only thrown out of the schools, but he was like thrown out of the government. Separation of church and state, government and the church and state.
So God wasn't in our government anymore.
Well, again, you know, as far You know that song we just heard. Will you be an American? Will you stand for the USA? Will stand for God first, God and country, and family, and church. And and boy, I am going to tell you, we're going to we're going to give it like we have for over fifty years.
We're going to give it our all. We're no no compromise. No, no, no, no. And you know, I I've been told. By some good people, some friends of mine who really who care about me, but they don't they don't really understand the the principle.
But they're saying, Pastor, you know, maybe you should stand down a little bit. There, you know, in other words, you know, we're making the opposition out there very angry. You know, with with what we're preaching and teaching.
So, no way, we don't. We there's no. No quiddiness and no compromise, and no, is there? Nope. Pastor Ernie, we're clear-minded, and we're going to stand on the things of God.
Let me let me read you something I wanted to share, Pastor Ernie, real quickly. Is a Bible verse about what we were talking about. The Supreme Court did in in 2015 there when it. Made a, I guess, a constitutional homosexuality.
Well, I hate to say marriage, but that's what they're doing. That's the constitutional right now. But listen to this, Jude, Jude chapter.
Well, there's only one chapter, Jude one seven. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities round about them, in like manner. Giving themselves over to fornication, fornication, and look at this, and going after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of of eternal fire.
So that's the Old Testament, and many people have told me that's the Old Testament. God doesn't judge today. God's love.
Well, it says here. What happened in Sodom and Gomorrah are set forth for an example. That's today. This is written for the New Testament times, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So, do we believe God's word that what they did in Sodom and Gomorrah, God will judge societies that do that today? Because that's we're down the road, Pastor Ernie, for what? They did in Salamagora. We're we're all the way down that road now. Right, the apostasy is so great.
I just had today a fellow telling me how, you know, he's from North Carolina. He was up here just to stop in and see me, and. He was. He went to a church there in North Carolina, a Baptist church. Had Baptist, well, recalls itself Baptist.
wasn't true Baptist, Protestant. But anyhow, and he went in and he asked the pastor about sodomite marriage, and what he supported. He said absolutely, God is love, unbelievable. One of the largest churches here in Ohio, a Baptist church in Canton. We just had Paul Schiffer, who has the Schiffer report on, was just on the radio yesterday saying he went there, and he got there, you know, before the service started, and he was telling, he was listening to people in there.
That we're referring that we're we're talking about, they voted for the deathocrats. They voted. Can you possibly be a Christian and vote for a deathocrat? Vote for for all of that sin. What do you think?
Certainly, I mean, it's like they have no the fear of God. The understanding of God is like void in the people that do that. It's void. They're not seeing. They got eyes, but they can't see.
You know. I mean, how can you vote for people that want to promote the mutilating of little kids that don't know right from wrong hardly, and all of that, and they want to have them transgendered, and then abortion, and then homosexual marriage, and all of that that that goes along with it. And then they're promoting communism. How can you do that and and turn your back on what the Bible says? There's something radically wrong.
Proverbs chapter twenty four says that those that do that they call wicked righteous. That they should be let the nations curse them. That they should be cursed amongst the people. Cursed amongst the people. There you go.
Anyhow, another verse, Pastor Ernie, Second Peter two six, and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemn them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that should that after should live ungodly.
Well, today this is the Bible for our time, Pastor. This is our time, the New Testament time. God will judge nations that follow down the road of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yep, we're coming to a heartbreak, so hang tight, John. We'll be back right after this, and we're going to open the phone lines at two one six nine zero one zero nine three three.
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