This is the Truth Network. The enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But the enemy, the devil, is the greatest makeup artist that's ever existed, and deceiver. We know about the cults using Christian language. Oh, we're Christian just like you.
All we believe in Jesus just like you. When you go deeper, you start defining terms. You see this nefarious plot. To totally attack the faith and deceive—it's happening now, of all places, in politics. Jim Garlow—they say they'll say anything to get elected.
Now they're talking about God. They're talking about—I think one thing that got really big was when when Barack Obama. He said, "I am for marriage between a man and a woman. That's how the good book says it." He looked, he looked Rick Warren in the eyes. Look, you were there.
Tell us about that. There, I was at that meeting.
Okay, I remember right where I was sitting. I remember who I was sitting with. Yeah, and I said, I turned to him. I said, "He's lying." Yeah, and I know a lot of black pastors, great friends, all kinds of folks who are who went behind Barack Obama and voted for him because he stood up for marriage in that moment. But then two weeks later, after he got elected, what happened?
Well, he promptly started pushing not only same-sex marriage, he also pushed transgenderism. He's the guy who brought transgenderism and mainstreamed it. I don't remember what year it was, but quite a few years ago, Hillary Clinton made a statement: "We got to start talking religious, acting religious like these people on the right. We got to do our own version of being religious." Well, that's precisely what happened.
Now we have pastors like Warnock down in Georgia, many pastors who are running for office. And who are absolutely bogus in terms of being serious followers of the Word of God? They violate Scripture.
Now listen closely. I pray this will energize your witness. I pray this interview will energize your prayer life, because now we have people because they have the title pastor, they're running for politics. There's some great pastors running for office.
Okay, there are. But like Mark Harris, you know, North Carolina and others, he's awesome. He follows Scripture. He follows Scripture. He he believes the Word.
He he legislates according to God's Word. Values, protecting life, you know, economic stewardship, and fidelity. But now we have pastors in Kansas, a prominent Methodist pastor. We have this pastor in Atlanta who claims to be a pastor, has a huge following, who are for killing the unborn. They're for all these awful things, men and women's locker rooms, and all this.
And then this guy who who claims to be a man of religion in Texas. Who says God is binary?
So Jim Garlow, what is non-binary? Yeah, non-binary. What are six genders? Of course. What is this?
This what is going on here? In please give us a little buyer beware. Help our listeners to to to to tune in and to tone up their radars as they hear this. Just because there's pastor in front of the politician's name doesn't mean that he follows what God says at all. There's two pastors.
I think both of them are female in Iowa that are do not follow Scripture. They're running for. Congress. Let me just contrast. Let's talk about Texas and Kansas right now.
Everybody knows the name Tellerico in Texas. Not quite so many know the name Adam Hamilton in Kansas. Both left-wing liberal. One's a seminarian. One's a pastor of a huge church.
Everybody knows that Tellerico is kind of a fruitcake. He just says nutty and stupid stuff.
So, so people can kind of see through him. Although he's polling tragically way higher than he should be. Adam Hamilton, in contrast to that, in Kansas is a prominent Methodist pastor. Twenty-four thousand members. Who says?
Oh, I'm I legislate from the middle. I'll bring in the middle. I'll bring peace and wash him all into all this horse. He is as slick as can be. He violates scripture on the issue of definition of marriage.
He violates scripture on the issue of abortion. He used to be right on those issues. He was very orthodox. He was very biblical. I knew him back in that day.
And then when it radically left when he got hooked up with Obama, preaching the inaugural sermon for Obama's second administration. When he knew Obama was The most pro-abortion president we had ever had to that point, and he knew Obama was bringing in transgenderism, and he still something happened to him at that point. Power tends to corrupt, and so the result is he violates all these type of things. Then, when the Methodist Church went through their struggle, I care about this. I have a Ph.D.
in historical theology. I'm an ordained Wesleyan pastor. I I did my Brit my doctoral dissertation on British and American Methodism. The Methodist movement under John Wesley was one of the greatest. Of God, ever in history, it was unbelievable what it accomplished for God.
It was astounding, but it has been completely compromised, capitulated.
Now, the United Methodist Church and the Global Methodist just went through a split. That's because all the United Methodists that were orthodox or biblical were kicked out, essentially forced out of their denomination. Adam Hamilton was the leader of that. He claims he's going to go to the Senate and be the great uniter. He has been the focal point in terms of a large church.
Of being the most divisive person that helped drive out not seven thousand people, but seven thousand congregations, more than seven thousand, and those that were biblical and Methodist, and they were forced out of their denominations effectively by virtue of conscience, good conscience, following scriptures. Guess what they had to do? They not only had paid for their buildings once by tithing for years and paying off their church building, they had to turn out and buy the building a second time, and they made the Heresyical group, the so-called Mother Church, flush with enormous amounts of cash.
Now the United Methodist is just plummeting in membership and attendance, and it should. Yeah, it's not United. It's not Methodist. It's not even a church.
Well, let me just get one thing clear.
So you're saying this man, who's a leader in the United Methodist, Denomination basically says to a whole lot of thousands of pastors, if you don't marry two men, if you don't marry two women, if you don't marry a man and his mom, or a or a woman and her horse, and you laugh, well, that's crazy.
Well, if you if you love the horse. Why shouldn't you be in matrimony? But he basically says, if you don't do ungodly marriages, you are done with being a United Methodist, and that's what he said. And now this guy's running for Congress using God as a way to get get people to vote for him. Adam Hamilton is running for Senate in Kansas as a man who said that you absolutely.
Need to support two men marrying each other. Not only that, when he didn't get it through in his his own denominational's general conference, when he wanted to the first time, he came back to his congregation, met with his people, and said, "I will go against the book of discipline." Now that's the that's the actual law book of his own denomination.
So let me ask you this: If a pastor will not follow the Bible, will he follow the Constitution? If a when he's a senator? If a pastor will not follow the rule book of his own denomination as a pastor? He says, "I'm going to violate it." Will he go there and follow as a senator and follow the laws of the land? It's an integrity issue that we're dealing with here.
He's non-scriptural. He's presenting himself as his follower of Jesus Christ when he's absolutely in violation of the Word of God. He supports that for which God destroyed Sodom.
So, pastors that push God to get elected, and then they're anything but pro God when they get elected, and they're actually in defiance of God. When they become, you know, when they come in office, how do Christians work through this? Because sadly, thousands of people, people of faith, are going to go vote for these guys. They're saying, "Oh, we need. Oh, this guy is going to unify us." How would you caution people listening out there to vote biblically, to vote their faith?
They need to know exactly what the political parties' actual platforms are, because Republicans vote with their party platform almost ninety percent of the time. Democrats vote with their party platform over seventy-five, maybe eighty percent of the time.
So they vote with a party platform. The platforms are very, very different.
Now that doesn't mean all Republicans are good. They're not. In fact, there's twelve senators, GOP, and there's thirty-nine House of Representative members that voted for same-sex. Marriage. I would want those guys all gone too.
They have to be Republican. I'm not enamored with Republican or Democrat. I'm enamored with God and His Word. His Word is holy. His it's righteous, and we're to walk in His truth.
Well, what Adam Hamilton kind of people do when they get to Washington D.C. They won't just come out of the closet and say, "Hey, I'm going to trash everything I said I was for back then." They'll be much slicker about that. They're very smooth. They're very, very sly, and here's what people make the mistake of doing: is that I'm going to vote for him because I like him. Adam Hamilton's very likable; he's affable.
If you listen to him speak today, well, I like that guy, and you would. These are articulate people; these are socially gracious people, and it doesn't mean that you're mean to these people, but it does mean that you listen up. If the devil pulled up a chair next to you, I don't think he'd be mean. In fact, he'd be really nice. In fact, he he comes as an angel of light.
It says that's the seductive power of evil. We need. Need to be adhere to God's word. We need to vote God's word. Let's take Jesus into the voting booth.
Let's be let's be mentally, emotionally, and spiritually prepared and understand what the Word of God says on biblical, political issues, governmental issues, and vote accordingly. Vote for God. The issue is not Republican versus Democrat. It's being in compliance with the Word and wills and ways of God.
Okay, someone says, but this guy, like guys like Trump, man, he's profane. He says stupid stuff. He attacks people. You know, uses bad language. I'm never going to vote for him.
I'm going to vote for the guy running against him, who's a full-blown socialist, full-blown pro-death, full-blown. Pro crime, everything like that. What do you say to someone like that? Though they they they look at these two candidates like, well, they're both evil. I'm, you know, you know, this lesser of two or better, worse of two evils kind of thinking.
How do you address that? Looking at the ballot when someone's got to pull that lever. I've served on Trump's faith advisory board, and I'm aware of some of the conversations privately, and I have met with him probably eight or nine times in groups, and not not hardly every individual, but talking to him individually on a few occasions. And I'll just say this: I've analyzed his executive orders. I've analyzed his policy.
I have a book called "The Executive Orders of Donald J. Trump: A Biblical Perspective," where we analyze 200 of his most recent executive orders based upon to the what extent were they scriptural? What extent did they violate scripture? And I have to say this: his policies are stunningly scriptural, overwhelmingly so.
Now he makes it hard to defend him when he says certain things. He uses words I would not want him to use. I don't want my kids. Talking that way, he he attacks certain people in ways he should not attack people. I don't defend that at all.
I think I I know those who are closest to him. I'm not close to him, but I know those who are closest to him, and they have reported this to me. And as exact quote, he really wants to do what's right.
Now he's a hard man to disciple in some of the personal aspects of the faith. I concede that, but I will say on his policies, I have analyzed those very carefully, and as Executive orders and this type of thing, and my goodness, the compliance to biblical authority is stunningly high. And didn't you say we're not voting for a pastor? You know, we're we're voting for someone. Who will be closest to what the biblical worldview is, and that means you're going to have to hold your nose with some of these guys.
But at the end of the day, is it going to be a full blown? You know, the socialist worldview comes from atheism. The capitalist worldview actually comes from you know the Judeo Christian ethic. You know, of giving more freedom to people to decide what to do with their money.
Now, some may waste it, some may gamble it away, but they can have more money to give to the church, to give to charities. But the the left in this communism Boy, it's awful.
So, give us a takeaway as we get out of here. On you're looking at a lot of candidates, and you're looking at you know, you're you're not going to find. If you said, "Hey, the Apostle Paul, he's on the ballot. I'm definitely voting for him." Nope, nope. He killed Christians before he got saved.
I would not want that on my hands. I don't want a guy like that with blood on his hands. I mean, you're going to find something wrong with anybody. Let me give a delicate, tender illustration for me personally. In twenty two thousand seven, my wife was diagnosed with cancer.
She died in twenty thirteen.
Now, when we started looking for a surgeon, we got the best surgeon we possibly could. We did. We analyzed. We got the best we could. He happened to be of all things Muslim.
Now he's a non-practicing Muslim, but nonetheless, he's Muslim background. I would much rather have had a spirit-filled Christian operating on my wife, but I wanted the highest level of competence doing that actual surgery. And so sometimes we have to even vote almost that way. I'll give the illustration where we had two years ago: American Christians had to make a decision between a Sunday school. Teaching Southern Baptist laymen running for president, or they could choose a Hollywood actor who had been divorced.
And up to that time, no president had ever been elected who had been divorced.
Now Betty Ford had been married before she married Gerald Ford, but no president had ever been divorced.
So that's a controversial issue. And we all chose Ronald Reagan, the Hollywood actor who had been divorced, rather than in Plains, Georgia, Sunday school. Teacher who taught the Bible, because why? Jimmy Carter was policies were off, and he got worse with age. And Ronald Reagan's policies were on, biblical, and he got better with age.
Wow! Give your website for folks to learn more. They can even read this book where you wrote about Trump's policy. I, I hadn't even wasn't even really fully aware of that. It's quite interesting, and I'm going to look forward to reading it.
But what's the website?
Wellversedworld.org. Our ministry is called Wellversed, but the website is called Wellversed. That's with a D on the end of it.
Wellversedworld.org, and they can look up one book called Wellversed, one called Reversed, one called the Executive Orders of Donald Trump. And that in those three books, we will outline over 100 political governmental issues from a biblical scriptural perspective.
