ARRESTED: The Left Turns on Schumer

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There were arrests on Capitol Hill as a sit-in was staged out in front of Chuck Schumer's office. Not exactly who you think would be getting protested at the time. After Democrats just made historic wins across the country, even yesterday, Mississippi being called for the Democrat senator there. And what were these? Individuals protesting—they were protesting Chuck Schumer himself.

With chants of "Hey, hey, ho, ho," Chuck Schumer has got to go. They were arrested. These were individuals from the Sunrise Movement. This is a youth climate organization. But they were also calling for things like ending the filibuster, being able to force through any legislation that the left wants.

This is at the same time that Senator from Maryland, Chris Van Hollen, announced last night he will run. For the Democrat leader job, let's go ahead and listen to what Chris Van Hollen had to say. As this is someone that is being called by Politico the new darling of the Democratic left, bite three. Yes, I am planning to run for the Senate Majority Leader, and let me tell you why. Because this is not about any one individual, but it is about answering the call of the American people.

We saw a huge outburst of democracy on Election Day: red states, blue states, purple states, and it wasn't only a rejection of Donald Trump and his corruption and his wars and his cruelty. It was also So about a call for a larger change to take on a broken economic system that's rigged in favor of the very wealthy against working people, and that's fueled by a corrupt political system, and the call was really to reject the status quo. And to reject business as usual, and to do that, I think we need new leadership. New leadership. This is coming from an individual.

I find this rich. That has 67 years old. Has been in Congress for 23 years, including the Senate since 2017. And he's considering himself the new facial face of Washington. I don't necessarily know that many people are going to buy that, but he is mounting a challenge to Chuck Schumer, who just delivered for the Senate.

I mean a huge majority, fifty-five seats as it stands could even be fifty-six depending on how Alaska goes, and he's saying we saw an outburst of democracy, as if every. Two years, we don't have elections democratically electing leaders across this country. What changed all of a sudden? Once again, this is what's happening within their own party. The honeymoon is over.

As the Democrats eat their own, they are going after their own leadership. Those that that decided where to spend money in races to help get individuals elected. And yes, there was a wave, but are they taking the right lessons from that so-called blue wave? We'll get into that, including what Axios is calling the algorithm trap that the Democrats could be caught in. What does it look like?

What do the next two years look like? And even what are some of the threats that that Senator Van Hollen is saying he would do? If he were the next majority leader in the Senate, and I want to hear from you, what do you think about this? It's just over a week since they had these these historic returns at the polls, and yet. The unity message is already long gone for Democrats.

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You're late. You lose your seat. I know. I missed the first segment. I'm sorry about that, but I'm here.

I'm well informed, well engaged, or I'm ready to get informed and engaged. Let's see what Joe says. I know our producer Ali. She kind of gave me a rundown here of what we're talking about here. People not thrilled with Chuck Schumer.

That's right. I mean, is we've been saying that for years. Right. I've not been thrilled with Chuck Schumer for. Pretty much his run, right?

He's he's been in for a minute. I think he's been in Congress since 1981, perhaps. Yeah, kind of a historic run, really. He lost me with when he tried to grill the burgers frozen with the cheese on it. Right.

Yeah.

So that was the that was when he's just trying to be a man of the people. That was like 98, and then I was like, he lost me there. Totally gone. That was four. We probably have similar grill skills.

I feel like me and Chuck Schumer. Neither of us have manned a lot of grills, but. I'm not dumb enough to post a picture like that.

So you know that's where he lost me completely. See, I feel like that's his staff's fault. That's not on him. He's losing a lot of his support. That's right.

That's right. You're seeing this. You're seeing dozens arrested. They're saying they want to get rid of the filibuster. There were 54 people arrested.

I mean, okay, let's go first of all for those who are just joining us.

So why were they arrested? Like, what was this story?

So this was a a Sunrise Movement. It's a youth climate organization. They staged a sit-in and. In front of his office, or inside, inside the Capitol building, you can go in and visit. You can do that, but and protests have happened there historically throughout.

Yeah.

Decades and decades—that's nothing new. But I'm guessing this was causing quite a disturbance.

Well, they were chanting things like "Hey, hey, ho, ho!" Schumer has got to go. They had signs that said "The filibuster kills," "Stop the climate crisis," "Schumer, step up or step aside." So clearly, not pleased with his leadership, even though like Israel, this is about. Climate specifically climate, but looking like they want to get rid of the filibuster, and you're already hearing some, you know, senators elect like James Talarico that said it's a relic and needs to go away. He wants to get rid of it. He he used the buzzwords that they love to saying it's a relic of Jim Crow, having the filibuster.

So once again, they're trying to condition the American people to get ready for when the Democrats, as we said, they were planning on doing, would. Get rid of the filibuster. To me, it's very similar to the electoral college. Where, yes, if you were to just try to explain it to people, I do think the there's a very easy way to explain why there shouldn't be the filibuster rule, why there shouldn't be an electoral college. It's well, yeah, one vote.

Equals one vote. Why wouldn't it be similar to this? Why would the majority like? Why wouldn't be majority rule? Why would we need this?

Of course, we have a very different opinion on that. But when you're educating a group of younger voters, it is very very easy. To turn them to be pro popular vote and by you know by proxy also this well and once again you know he tried to say the filibuster is a relic of Jim Crow that was James Talerico obviously but you're starting to look at things that as you mentioned that people are not necessarily educated on why it exists the Senate itself we heard from Senator Chris Van Hollen in that first segment of the reason that he is running and I want to get this quote specifically correct because. He said, "We saw an a huge outburst of democracy on election day. An outburst of democracy, which is hilarious because yet we have democratically elected leaders.

The specific makeup of the Senate is meant to be undemocratic in a way. It serves as a check on majority rule because that is why each state has two senators, an equal amount regardless of population.

Now, those that are democratic." Socialist in the left, they want it to be only majority rule. That's why they want to get rid of the electoral college. That's why they want to abolish the senate. These are things in their platform, but these are specific mechanisms, not from you know a mid-century era, from the founding of the country itself. We didn't used to democratically elect senators; they were appointed by the state legislatures as a check on the population, so that it wasn't mob rule.

In this country, so you're starting to see we've already moved away from even the way senators were selected to a more democratic process. But by saying that a huge outburst of democracy happened on election day is just a hilarious statement. But here's what he wants to do because he's running against Chuck Schumer now. This is a Democrat from Maryland, 67 years old, 23 years in Congress, and been in the Senate since 2017. Not a young man, right?

And that's why even him. Saying we need new leadership, a fresh face is is kind of laughable. That he is the one that is deciding. He's not Abdullah Saeed, exactly. But Abdullah Saeed is supporting Chris Van Hollen.

You have people like Troy Jackson in Maine who is saying, "I'm not so certain. I'm going to vote for Chuck Schumer as leader." Now their election is a closed door leadership election on December first. They are now trying to have a groundswell of support, and obviously. Using things like social media and protests to try and make it so that it isn't the only option for Democrats to choose Chuck Schumer. Yeah, and we saw it did work for Republicans last time when obviously there was a push to have Kevin McCarthy step into one of the leadership roles, and we saw how well that worked out for Republicans.

As soon as they had these kind of mutinies, it became chaos and damaged the brand to a degree. It did, but we did end up with Mike Johnson, who we would was terrific.

Now, so I. Again, I think they did work itself out in in some instances, and I saw a lot of people in the moment praising. Praising when that happened, saying, "You know what? We don't. We want it to be a little bit more like the UK.

We want some yelling and screaming in our halls of Congress or in the Senate." Like, why do we have just you? You were the one that said that. No, no, I actually didn't. Parliament, I do love feeds. I do love watching it.

I do love watching it. However, I didn't like it, and I thought you know that was embarrassing. But I remember seeing a lot of my friends even reach out to me and go, "We don't care." We don't mind a little chaos. We don't care. Matt Gates is yelling, "Donald J.

Trump for leader," you know. Like, remember all of that that came in from all of it, and what happened to that entire group of people? By the way, where are they now? No longer in Congress. Yeah, a new special, right?

Remember where are they now? Bring it back. Here's here's what I want to play as well. Where are they now, MAGA coalition? What was it called?

The what do we what a freedom the freedom freedom caucus? Freedom caucus that still exists. Just those members are gone. I mean, it exists like in name only. Freedom caucus a name a finos really.

So let's just let's move on. I want to play this. This is from Chris Van Hollen talking with Jinsaki last night. This is after he revealed that he will be running for the majority leader of the Senate against Chuck Schumer. This is how he would hold the President of the United States accountable for Iran, getting him to end the war.

Now, this has been also a thing they continue to say, but currently. What war are they ending? Are they going to pull all of our assets from the Middle East, from Jordan, from Bahrain, from Qatar? All these large military bases, Saudi Arabia. I mean, that's the real question.

Because as it stands, it is kind of a stalemate. There's not really fighting going on. There may be a little air strike here and there, but it's not what they are talking about when they say. I don't like the way you said that. Just a little air strike here and there.

Yeah, this is what he had to say. How he would give the President a choice about ending. Ending the war in Iran by two. The President of the United States, he would be forced to end the war. Is your point?

You think that's the approach that would force him to end the war? Because Congress can't do it unilaterally. Right. The President would be given a choice. Right.

Does he say to the American people that I'm going to shut down the United States government? Am I going to shut down all the agencies of the U.S. government to keep the legal war in Iran going and to keep prices high when we could do it now?

So the President would have a choice. He could choose to completely ignore the will of the American people and shut down the government, but my view is it's our job to do what we think is best for the country.

So, what he's saying right there is that, literally, if he is leader. And what he thinks the strategy is is shut it down. Have another government shutdown on the table. Oh, this! I literally just turned.

When did he say this? Because this feels like a remnant of the past. Last night. Last night. I'm sorry, I wasn't watching Jin Saki show last night, so I wasn't because you were watching Parliament.

I'm sure. Yeah, I was. I was doing some other things. I was. I was watching the Streamer Awards.

Actually, is what it was. Will. Oh, because you like Hassan Pike. Hassan Pike was there. Exactly.

Which did honestly, it was one of those moments where I was like. This guy's a. Fraud, you know. He's sitting like everyone else is a gamer, and then there's Hassan Piker at the table. That's how he started.

I know he was a gamer, but leading like a charge, you know, of of political movement, you know, when Peely the Banana is giving out an award, it did feel like okay, maybe I give this guy like a little too much credit.

Well, I think though that's what actually goes into our discussion in the next segment because Axios has this article that says behind the curtain, Democrats. Algorithm trap, and I think it's actually fascinating to look at, especially you who have kids that are into gaming and streaming and like very. I feel like you're very hip to where the look at this jacket. The kids are, yeah, cool dude, real cool dude. And that I think when you start to look at the way this election went, this was very much a vibes election when it comes to things like affordability and the way that they use social media.

You said vibes election. That sounds like something my kids would say too. I know. I'm trying to be cool. I like it.

I like it. You're getting there. But this is where we're going to talk about: is there an algorithm trap where the echo chamber is feeding back into itself, and they're not looking at the reality of which individuals in states like Mississippi, in Kansas, were elected? They weren't DSA candidates, but it's the DSA wing that is taking this as the mandate and saying, "Here is what we have to change." But here's something that won't change. We are in our stand strong challenge, and that means that every donation you give to the ACLJ is doubled, dollar for dollar.

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It's not against the the Republicans that lost seats. It's not against the President per se. You're seeing it the very leaders that led the coalition in many of these states that are now being rejected by their own party. You're seeing new individuals. Individuals like Chris Van Hollen say, "I am going to run for leader.

I am going to try to unseat Chuck Schumer from the leadership position." And even he has to throw in a few things, like he said, "You know, he chose APAC over the Democrats." So, I mean, that's a little bit of a nudge of where his mind's at as well. But that also buys into what we've seen across this entire election, and that's something that Axios is calling the algorithm trap. And you even saw in that video that where Van Jones talked about them using 10,000 individuals to push the message of affordability wherever they could. Obviously, that gets scooped up by the algorithm. These are the tools that are being used now in elections, and you're starting to see though.

It's not just that there is a pushback, and that the algorithm trap maybe gets people excited, or they think that's where the party is. When you look at reality, the the people that are pushing DSA things and Medicare for all, and all of these line items that would be told to you is where the pulse of the party is online. Isn't who was elected in Mississippi, in Maine, in Kansas, in maybe in Texas? To some degree, but a lot of times they were running as moderates to try and appeal to a base there, whether they're moderates or not. It's not that the DSA agenda necessarily won, like they would have you believe.

I mean, in some ways, it's be like just exclusively trusting a movie reviewer to 100% align with your views. You know, if you maybe trust them or a food critic or maybe maybe a Yelp review, and not understanding the fact that.

So many people can come in and really change a business. You know, can hurt a business with a couple dozen people. Really, can go in and do that.

Now, take that to the scale of only ten thousand. We think about ten thousand. Ten thousand is nothing. Ten thousand people. If ten thousand people online really could sway this election, imagine what could be done.

I mean, we have half a million over that that watched this show on YouTube alone, right? You know, almost six hundred thousand subscribers just on YouTube watch this show.

So if you get out of your echo chamber. You can make a big influence. This is grassroots marketing. We do think about getting out on the streets. I think that's still very important on your local elections.

But remember how much of your local is being controlled by Facebook groups. It's being controlled by your Instagram feed, by TikTok. I mean, we think about young people, but it's not just young people. Think about how many people are involved. How many older people are involved in their neighborhood Facebook group or their citywide Facebook group that talk politics.

Politics, it seems, ad nauseum. Maybe. You can get engaged in that way too. Maybe two can play at that game, and I think it's something that we have to really look into beyond just going. Oh, they're manipulating.

They're kind of just playing by the new world.

Well, and once again, even apps like Nextdoor, which is you know talking about neighborhood groups. I mean, normally you're getting push notifications of what was that? Was that a gunshot? Or you're hearing I've lost my dog or cat. Like that's the Vast majority of posts on Nextdoor, I was getting inundated with things of here's why to vote no on constitutional amendments and videos of people that just seem like random neighbors that are telling you this.

There's no way that that was completely organic. They were able to utilize not just the big social media platforms, the TikTok, X, YouTube, etc., but actually dive deep into some of the more nuanced places to. Get an agenda across, and I think it was very effective. The call coming in, Rachel in New York, watching on YouTube, kind of ties into this. Thing would be good.

Let's go to Rachel. Go ahead. I don't know. Thanks for taking my call. I'm just wondering: are there any safeguards or anything in place, or could be put in place to kind of help this?

You know, put up. I'm sorry, like protect us from the agenda that these. DSA people and others are. Kind of forcing on us, yeah.

Well, well, Rachel, from a from a federal point of view, you're still the President of the United States for the next few years, so that's at least one positive. There is the power of the veto coming in when some of this happens, but also, I mean, elections have consequences. We always say that all the time. Sure, there are obviously ways the ACLU fights back. We feel it's unconstitutional.

A lot of times, you can do that locally as well. Maybe your local judges, your local laws, can be a little bit easier. Necessarily, always going the federal level, but there are. I understand that there is real concern here with some of the ideologies, and when you learn how they were able to infiltrate in some ways, Rachel. Yes, there is something that counteracts a lot of this ideology.

It's called the United States Constitution. It's what we fight for here every single day at the ACLU. It's what our attorneys are constantly fighting for for individuals' constitutional rights. When you see. Localities, cities, school boards, etc., try and trample on those constitutional rights, and so it goes all the way to the local government level, all the way up to this new incoming Congress that we will continue to fight.

So we are a safeguard, and the Constitution is a safeguard against this. But I think we should also bring this into the discussion because this is from that Axios article about the algorithm trap. It says Democrats clearly won because voters are tired of Trump's ideas, rhetoric, and. Tactics. They clearly won because they fielded very moderate candidates in very red states.

Flips in Kansas, which hadn't elected a Democrat senator nearly a century. Iowa, Texas, Ohio, North Carolina, and South Carolina. They clearly won because those candidates uniformly talked about the economy, the cost of living, and things that matter to real people in real states. Only the most delusional Democrats think they won because of the mass appeal of their party. They know they have a golden opportunity to reposition and rehabilitate the Democratic brand.

Flashback: the last time Democrats held a majority this big after 2008, they lost 63 House in the seats two years later.

So that is why I think you have those that are maybe trying to be a little pragmatic that are. Crazy to say, the more moderate members of their parties now—Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries—I would by no means label them moderates, but that's why the far left is turning on them. They know that they have to deliver. On these things that they ran on.

Now I know the people that watch this show didn't buy it from the messages that we're putting out, but if they only believe that these candidates in this positioning of their party is the way forward, then you could see a swift backlash in two years. Yeah, and look, I can I can push back and say I definitely saw people in the chat though who said I didn't vote. Definitely said I didn't get out there, you know, because they felt like the party had left them, or felt like the the candidates were poor candidate choices. And look, I I don't I don't agree with you doing that, but I understand it. I think we ran the Conservatives ran a pretty pretty poor choice of of options.

I think it was a pretty weak field there.

So yes, they may have not fallen for going to vote you know flip to blue, but they may not have been motivated at all to vote. Yeah, in the anecdotaly, I mean, we see what happened here in Tennessee. It was way closer than it should. And what conversations did I have with friends and family? Of well, we're safe here in Tennessee.

Yeah, it's a very conservative state. I gotta go wait in line, and I'm gonna go wait in line, or I have to go early vote for what is a foregone conclusion.

Now, Shuen, it the conservative candidates won, not in every single race, but in other races, very close. Not necessarily. Because of. Bad candidates or a shift in ideology? Not by the twenty percent, thirty, thirty forty percent was expected, but it's because nine hundred thousand less Tennesseans decided to actually go vote, and it made it razor thin.

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Keep you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow second half hour of the broadcast. I'm Will Haynes. I'm joined in studio by Logan Sekulow.

Hey. I'm here. I get to be co-host today, which is fun. You miss one segment on this show, they boot you to the second chair. We have a relegation system, kind of like in maybe I don't in football.

Maybe I don't host on Friday the 13th. It's probably for the best. That's a new tradition we should keep.

Now that you told people, we'll see if people remember next Friday. Oh, they will. They're still talking about hoagies that I don't remember ever saying. But hey, we're back on the show. We got to cover what we're talking about here because I know a lot of you join us here in the second half hour, and Mike.

Pompeo is going to be joining us. That's right; he'll be joining us in the next segment as we have some developments where you are seeing more members of the cabinet move to military bases because of the threat from Iran. Is something that unfortunately he is very familiar with—the threats against officials that were in the Trump administration from the Iranians and the IRGC. But we're also talking about this kind of shift within the party of the Democrats themselves, as there were. Fifty-four people arrested in front of Chuck Schumer's office, protesting him at a time when they just had a historic blue wave election.

He, they, he got sent a whirlwind. Oh, right, he will rue the day. He, he rueed that day, man.

So, if you want to call us though and talk about any of this, one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. Should we take a call here in the first segment? Why not? Let's go ahead. Which one?

Let's go to Bill calling from Wyoming on line one. Bill, you're on Sekulow. Hi, thanks for taking my call. I've I've really been confused and trying to figure out what happened on Tuesday, and it was after what you folks were talking about yesterday that I come to the conclusion that I think problem is that the people nowadays. Are too too pampered.

I'm not trying to be too critical or anything like that, but I grew up with parents who went through World War II, and they were also survivors of the the Great Depression. Great Depression. Yeah.

Yes. Thank you.

So they were pretty well prepared to face some of the shortages that. We've had to come across, and I'm kind of thinking that that could be a big factor. Is that they're just not used to the fact of. To take care of their funds, well, and Bill, I think to some degree, but I mean, I also don't want to also look away from the fact housing is extremely expensive. The prices of things have gone up dramatically.

When you thought even the aggressive nature of the inflation that we saw under the Biden administration, and to some degree, that not only have those prices not gone down, that inflation has maintained at an above target. Rate by the Fed, so you are still seeing increase in prices. People are in positions now, whether it be decisions from administrations long ago that set up the economy in certain ways or not. There are many individuals that are struggling and that resonate with that very theme of economic insecurity or instability or or anxiety that you're seeing, and that is exactly what they were able to capitalize on. But one thing.

You have to also remember they didn't capitalize on it by giving a solution. They capitalized on it by just saying we are pushing back, and these people aren't doing anything for you. And I think that's also something that we need to be looking at as well. Their solutions that they say they have for things like healthcare costs and housing costs, in reality, economically, will not help anyone that is struggling. They will only drive up the costs more or deliver worse care.

In the case of Healthcare and things of that nature, but the critique on Republicans is that they didn't do anything to address or respond to those criticisms that could be seen as valid by the electorate, and clearly, we're saying, all right, fine, we're either not going to show up or we're voting the other way or are motivated to vote. In this midterm, because there isn't a solution or even discussion that is being had by those that are currently elected. We get back. We're going to hear from Secretary Mike Pompeo. We're going to swerve it.

Have a couple different topics we're going to talk with him about.

So, if you want some more updates, you want a little change of pace, stay tuned for that. Phone lines are open though for you. We got four lines open. Almost five lines open. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero.

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So, get in line. I'm not afraid of the dark. Welcome back to Sekulow. We're joined now by former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Senior Counsel for Global Affairs here at the American Center for Law and Justice. And I wanted to bring this up, Mister Secretary.

This is the Wall Street Journal editorial board put out a piece titled "Iran's Assassins Are on the Loose." This comes as we saw this week that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was added to the list of officials. That have been moved to military bases for safer housing for those cabinet members, and also we saw the U.S. pulling more assets from another British airbase because of this Iranian threat. This is unfortunately a topic you are all too familiar with—the threat against American officials by the Iranians by the IRGC. How serious of a national security threat is this?

Well, it's great to be with you. Look, it's very real. The fact that they chose to ask the secretary to move on to a military facility is not random. It's not because they are fearful of something they can't see in front of them. That is, there is obviously a very real threat.

I was, in fact, I think the first cabinet member to be moved on to a military facility when I became Secretary of State in two thousand and eighteen.

So that we could be inside of the gates of a military compound, making a lot more sense. And your point about what's happening in the UK—it's also happening in France, where they shut down refrigeration systems for the Iranian threat. To cause havoc and create chaos, and remain the world's largest state sponsor is very real, and something that I think every American needs to understand and adapt. That perhaps they don't. And when I hear people talk about President Trump and his war of choice, I must say that, in my judgment, it was a very wise choice that he made.

And frankly, you can't sit there when the Iranians are trying to assassinate not just government officials but civilians as well here in the United States. That is an unacceptable risk for us. As Americans, Secretary Pompeo, it's Logan. This has been decades in the making. I mean, people can easily judge history by the last few years and go, "What was going on with Iran?" We know this is something that has been a real problem, you know, for decades and decades.

Do you think, though, that that hasn't been explained enough or explained correctly to the American people? You know, why action and why we needed a regime change, at least in some way, was really a necessity. Logan, I think that's true. Look, it's hard sometimes to cut through the noise with all that's going on, and the fact that Americans are rightly focused on things here at home—that's that's that's normal. That's the way it ought to be.

But I do wish American senior leaders, including during my time, President Biden's time, not just in this administration, had made clear: here's the risks, here's what we're up against, here's how close they are to getting a nuclear weapon, here's how close they are to being able to have a defense system that makes. Impenetrable, and the fact that we are the great Satan, Israel is the little Satan, and that risk is real, should have been more clearly, more repeatedly, and more forcefully made to the American people. I think there'd be more support for that. And then, you know, when we tried to cut a deal with them, I think the American people said, "Gosh, if you can get a deal, why didn't you just do that?" And that was frustrating for Americans as well.

Well, and I think that that brings up naturally. This is this is something I want to read from that editorial board at the Wall Street Journal piece. It says the IRGC is still on the loose. Its kudz force is working to attack Americans, Jews, and Iranian dissidents around the world. That's how Iran's terrorist regime operates, and it won't stop even if a smiling thug shakes Mister Vance's hand and again promises that Iran will let oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz when.

It gets everything else it wants. We saw yesterday that the President announced he wants Vice President Vance to focus on fraud at home and other other working things as well.

Some of the things that he's been working on, but taking kind of the Iran issue off his plate. Is this a signal that the President understands the ongoing threat and will continue to do what's necessary to keep that threat either in check or to eliminate it altogether? A hundred percent. President Trump has always been clear clear-eyed about the risks from the Islamic Republic, around for decades, long before he entered life as President of the United States. And during my time, I witnessed that he got he got the storyline right that you can't trust these people.

We broke out of the silly deal that the Biden administration or the Obama administration had entered into the JCPOA, the nuclear deal. They weren't complying with it. There's there's no agreement. And the other thing that was in the President's comment yesterday was we don't need a deal. And I think he's exactly right.

He could have added, not only do we not need one, but we're never going to get one that these folks will actually live up to. And so, in the end, I think the President has made the right set of choices. I think the blockade is working and functional. And I hope one day, to the Wall Street Journal's point, I hope that the IRGC and its external terror forces one day won't be roaming and on the loose. But the Iranian people will get a chance to overthrow a regime that continues to present risk to us here in the United States.

I wanted to shift gears here a little bit, and this is something we haven't talked on the broadcast this week, but it has been dominating the the headlines across America. And this is the fall of the Nvidia CEO after the revelations of a relationship with a suspected Chinese spy.

Now, obviously, the media has had a field day with the salacious parts of this scandal. But the national security implications of this are very grave. We know the CCP will do whatever it takes for global dominance, and I I know that you, as Secretary of State, you were shutting down consulates that were just a den of spies around the country in places like Houston, in in the Pacific Northwest. We saw that they were using the the diplomatic cover to bring more and more espionage assets. Into the country, but how do you think the U.S.

should be responding to what we've seen play out this week with this new revelation?

So I agree with you. I'm not. I'm uninterested in the salacious elements of this. I'm deeply interested in the fact this is yet another example of the Chinese Communist Party using all the tools available. This woman, you know, as a alleged spy.

It's it's probably different from that. She probably wasn't formally working for them. She was deeply connected to the Chinese Communist Party leadership, and it appears. Smuggling export banned chips into China, and this is happening at so many levels. We saw what happened with Congressman Swalwell.

We saw that the Chinese had a spy inside the governor's office in New York. How many? How many? Hundreds of other businesses and government places are the Chinese at work. And I think it's important for us all to step back.

They won't always be of Chinese ethnicity. They will be using every tool that they have to undermine the things that matter most to us. And I hope that one good thing that will come out of this issue with Nvidia is a heightened awareness about this risk and the willingness of the United States government to do the necessary to provide good counterintelligence and to be on guard against Chinese threats to our society and our way of life.

Well, and I think also when you look at the the importance of a company like Nvidia that is powering almost everything that we have technologically speaking, and one the the innovations that have come out of that as an American company, now that obviously it's going to be something that is that the Chinese are going to want to exploit and to use. But you mentioned also the the way that they've been able to embed themselves with Than government officials, then now obviously business leaders. We know that you did great work as Secretary of State confronting that threat to national security. But are we just scratching the surface at how deep the the depths of this go when it comes to the CCP trying to infiltrate American systems and institutions for their benefit? Yes, I think we are.

I think what you saw with Nvidia, a very important company for American national security and for American economic security, that's a good example. But this is broad and deep, and there's an awful lot more work left to do. That's not just true in the United States; it's true in Canada. It's true in Europe. The Chinese Communist Party is working across the board to try and not just steal secrets, but create an information campaign that creates political chaos inside of our countries in a way that ultimately will undermine us.

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Let's go to Kathy calling from line one on Oregon. Kathy, you're on Sekulow. Good morning, guys. Um. I just wanted to say and encourage Americans to educate themselves on the danger of radical Islam.

Don't worry if they call you an Islamophobe or a war monger or a hate monger. The thing is, they're telling us right out loud. What the plan is. Kathy, I think one what you've seen is especially in this latest election when you've seen even really since October seventh, you've seen what the media calls the red green alliance. Right, this is this you know Islamist and kind of Marxist socialist alliance that has become the cause of the left is now Christmas is right not the same red green alliance that this also isn't you know Hatch Chili Peppers in.

In New Mexico, right? It's not that kind of red green. It's the the red being obviously socialists and the Islamic cause, and they've kind of put that under the banner of Free Palestine at this time. But that isn't new. These two groups that have used their radical ideology have been doing it for for decades, including the Iranian Revolution.

That was a Marxist revolution that was hijacked by the Islamists, and they worked together in tandem. And who won out at the end of the day? The Ayatollah, the theocratic dictatorship and death cult led by the Ayatollah. You see the same factions that work around the world today, and their messaging is similar. But that's exactly the truth of it.

Now, at the same time, it doesn't necessarily always win out with it being the Islamists that win.

Sometimes it is the radical socialist or communist that wins out in that struggle. But they align themselves because they do have similar goals, and that is to break down the systems that have freedom, capitalism, and. All the very foundations of this country. That's why you see the DSA that pushes not only the free Palestine narrative, but they push things like abolish the presidency as we know it, abolish the Senate, pack the court, get rid of the filibuster. All of these things are things that are tied together ideologically and have worked together, even if their outcomes and their goals are different than than each other would want.

They Work together to try and tear down the structures and the Western ideals that we hold here in this country, and I think that's on display. And you've seen it for for decades, but it is once again becoming the popular ideology. Yeah, I think it's easy to fall into sort of the tropes and all of this, and not actually look into the nitty gritty, look into the details of what the policies are that are being pushed forward. I think we can. You have a much bigger case against what's happening.

Then, if you just start throwing people's religion under the bus, or their backgrounds, or where they're even born, I think when you start doing that, you fall into very easy tropes to be labeled something. But we can easily look look at the mayor of New York City is someone who is very dynamic speaker is a very great at at getting out the vote, marketing to young people. You could easily take the bait, or even Abdul Aziz or any of these new group of Muslims that have joined our government. There's easy the easy thing to do, and the one that will get you nowhere is going after their faith. Go look at their policies, and yes, could their faith inform?

Maybe, but look at the policies. I wanted to give Mayor Mardani a really good shot. At running the city, I want New York City to thrive, but what was very clear was that the policies are not going to be what's going to make this city what it needs to be. Probably will not fix the problems. It has enough to do with his faith.

It has to do with again the Democrat socialist agenda that really has has found a footing foothold with a specific group. Right, but. That makes that part of it is what is appealing, not when you come down to the policy. Most people are kind of ignorant to the policies of really what's happening, or they just hear things broadly. Tax the rich?

Well, they're currently not rich. They think great. You know that is the situation. We have a call coming in about that too. I want to go to Earl in New York.

Earl, go ahead.

Well, thank you. And you know, part of the problem that I see is the common person out there. They're very uninformed.

Okay, for a lot of reasons, they they get their information from you know. What is known as the fake news.

Now, I want to digress real quickly. In 1979, I moved to California and I got a job working for a studio. And very quickly, I'll tell you, the Ayatollah was ousted, and David Frost did a special there, and we were on lockdown when that happened.

Now, I live in Buffalo, New York. Terry Anderson lives in lived in Batavia, which is right down 20 miles from me. He was in prison for. Almost two decades, and people don't realize what they started way back then. And it took all these years for Donald Trump to finally stand up and knock these guys down.

You know, I've I've my entire life remember this. I remember when I was a teenager and seeing this happen, a year after year after year after year, and then when he goes ahead and does what he had to do, all of a sudden, you know, there's political ramifications for that. You know, those people are just crazy. Easy, and I've just watched it, and a lot of people haven't.

So, I mean, you know, I experienced a lot when that.

Well, Earl, I think once again, if we learn the old adage, you know, those that don't study history are doomed to repeat it. I mean, that's true. I mean, even Ecclesiastes: "There's nothing new under the sun." Like these aren't brand new ideas. These are ideas that have have caused revolutions and death and destruction. You know, I I don't think.

That, as you said, that people are are really looking into it, especially as the young people that see these as attractive ideas. There's a reason they were attractive to people when there were revolutions in the in the '70s. It's because why there've been communist revolutions. Yeah, they can market it well to young people. It sounds good.

That's what happens. But what do we see on the tail end of it? As soon as that is the the case, the the government. Is only able to stay in power because of threats of violence. I mean, that is the literal system of government: is that you are kept in check by laws.

When it is a communist-style government, what do they do? They use that power, that very serious power, to go after and take out their enemies—those that would educate the public of the evils of of things like socialism and communism.

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