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For call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. This is Logan Sekulow. Will Haynes in studio.

We're joined by Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem. As the Israeli elections are right here, they're happening. People are voting. Thousands and thousands more people are showing up. To vote this time around, obviously a lot of controversy surrounding who will be the next leader and how that all shakes out.

Again, it gets a little complicated, Israel, because it's not just like America in terms of the way of one vote or one person with the most votes wins, and you got to form governments. We're going to get into all that.

So, if you want to know more information, we know you're seeing the headlines. We're going to get into that as well. Of course, now one week away from the midterms, and you know what? There's someone who likes to get themselves in the news right around election times, right between a week or two weeks before an election. It is our boy James Comey.

James Comey shows up somehow, always right around now.

Now this time he may have not been the he may not have been the the person making it happen, but he's in the news. That's right.

So what we're finding out is that the Department of Justice and federal prosecutors are charging James Comey with. Transmission of national defense information and conspiracy to commit or. Conspiracy to transmit national defense information.

So two charges here.

Something that we all probably thought he should have been charged, and maybe had already been charged with many times ago. But a lot of his other charges had to do with stuff like Seashell Gate. That's right.

So what we're looking at now, though, is whether or not this is going to be a third time's a charm for the federal government. And what we have here is actually a criminal information document that. Was filed under seal on October fifth, so a few weeks back, twenty-two days ago to be precise.

Now it has been unsealed. We are finding out also that his defense team is pushing back, saying this is more games from the federal government. We will get into all of that in the next segment and explain all of this. But we also have at the same time this morning we're finding out that Eric Swalwell's mansion in Beverly Hills was raided. By federal authorities, if you remember back in August, he was detained at the San Francisco airport.

His electronic devices were seized by federal authorities, and now his home has been raided. All of this happening around the same time period that we are finding out that James Comey is now once again under the microscope of federal authorities. When this time, having to deal with the leak. Of national defense information, so we're going to get into all this. What does it mean?

Do you think anything will happen with this third time's a charm with James Comey? We know with Eric Swalwell because of allegations he had to drop out of the governor's race. He was vying to be the next governor of California, and now he is under scrutiny by federal authorities.

So, if you want to talk about this on air, one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. We're going to break it. All down for you. That's right.

Again, as well said. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four. Thirty one ten. That's one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. If you have a question related to this, we're also going to play you that ad you've seen it maybe going around in support of Al Sayed.

Of course, it is maybe one of the more extreme anti-Israel and anti-Semitic ads that you could possibly imagine hitting the airwaves. What happens? Do they distance themselves? How do they get involved in this? A really horrific ad that's running and trying to be done in sort of a tongue-in-cheek way.

We even have CNN's van. Jones coming out and saying it's time to distance themselves completely from this type of rhetoric. He's been a good friend of Israel, I have to say. Of all the things you may disagree with him on. One thing is for sure, he has been a very consistent friend to the Jewish people and to Israel.

Phone lines are open for you. And again, as we are one week out from those midterms, we're going to break down more about this James Comey situation. But I do want to hear from you. How are things looking in your area? Do you feel confident about your candidate?

Do you feel like it's a long shot? Maybe you're in a blue state. Maybe you're in a red state. I want to hear from you right now. Let's do a little.

Let's do our own little polling. Will. Just kind of across the country. Is that an official poll? I mean, it'll be added to the aggregators as an official poll.

I mean, we can submit it. We'll see. It's probably more real than others. I mean, they talk to real people. Yep.

Phone lines are open for you. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. That's one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Be right back. Welcome back to Secular.

We do have some phone lines open. A lot of you are just joining us right now, so we're going to kind of restate the main topic of the day. Of course, we're talking once again the man who won't go away, and he even said that himself in a video, saying, "Well, they're back at it again because it seems like now for a third attempt, they are going after James Comey. The Trump administration is doing this this time." Under a moment that really feels like one of the charges that should have been made very early, when we know all the different things that James Comey's had issues with, this is one. The count is transmission of national defense information.

Account two is conspiracy to transmit national defense information. Almost something that he has a little bit admitted to in the past with all the leaking and all of that. That he certainly they have at least a reason.

Well, and once again, the very first time he was charged, that was dismissed not because of the facts of the case, but because of the issue with the U.S. attorney that was serving in a temporary position at the time. But they were saying overstayed, so it was a did the individual have the right to bring the charges? Kind of situation that was why the first charges that were from back in September of 2025 in the Eastern. District of Virginia, and those related to false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, and count two was obstruction of a congressional proceeding, and those actually those charges related to what this charge is.

The the obstruction and the false statements were related to him and how he operated with this individual that was a special government employee that he was using to leak information.

So they were trying to go the first the perjury route and obstruction route rather than the actual leaking of the information.

Now, more than a year later, they are bringing this charge, and and that's where it gets. Also, we need to be clear with people: this isn't an indictment by a grand jury.

So he has not been officially charged by a grand jury, indicted criminally. I know that can get a little confusing for people. What they did was they filed this count one and count two that the United States charges that at all times relevant to this information, count one and count two, that are related to the transmission of national defense information and conspiracy to transmit national defense information. But this doesn't automatically go to trial because it's not an indictment yet. What the Comey team has done is filed a motion to dismiss.

Miss, based off of the statute of limitations, it was a ten-year statute of limitations on these charges, which because they are alleging that they took place on October fifth of twenty sixteen, before the first Trump election. This is trying to push the time frame. That's right.

Move the goalposts. It's called tolling the statute of limitations, putting pause on what would expire. They filed this October fifth of twenty twenty six.

So exactly ten years later, whatever you think about it, this is fairly common practice.

So that's the the issue at hand. You may not like the idea that they're doing this, but. In general, this isn't anything new to the federal government, right? And that is why his defense team charged said now the statute limitations has run, throw this out, don't even worry about it.

However, the spokesperson for the DOJ says that filing a criminal information to toll the statute of limitations, which is exactly what they have done here, is a widely recognized practice in federal court and has been approved by multiple circuit courts of appeals. This is an An ongoing criminal investigation, and we will not comment further.

So you're at a situation here, and I think what what I the big question I have, and I'm sure many of the audiences is. Why you even have to extend this? Why did you have to get to the statute of limitations date and extend this? Why wasn't this your first priority way to look into this? Because we know James Comey.

Remember, he told Susan Collins, "This is Byte Nine" in a hearing in 2017.

So nine years ago, about showing copies of his memo to people outside the DOJ, Byte Nine. Did you show copies of your memos to anyone outside of the Department of Justice? Yes. And to whom did you show copies? I asked.

President tweeted on Friday after I got fired that I better hope there's not tapes. I woke up in the middle of the night on Monday night because it didn't dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation. There might be a tape, and my judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. And so I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. Didn't do it myself for a variety of reasons, but I asked him to because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel.

So I asked a close friend of mine to do it, and was that Mr. Witters? No, no. Who was that? A good friend of mine, who's a professor at Columbia Law School.

So even this here, he's admitting that this is a practice of his. Crazy, this is nine years ago now. But also, that isn't even the instance that is at the heart of this criminal information filing by the United States Department of Justice. They are alleging that he was leaking things to Yahoo News and things of that nature. All of this stuff that we know about from the Russia Gate hoax that was perpetuated on the American people.

That he was doing that even before President Trump was elected, so that's where it gets interesting. Why, and we don't know the answer to this. Why did it take ten years for the DOJ to to go down this path? Why did they go for the obstruction of Congress and the the other path of the of the line to Congress first instead of going down the threatening of the President? All of that now the threatening of the President, the eighty six forty seven that one is still in court, and that's actually been delayed.

Until early 2027, we got till 2037, I guess, to actually get it done, right? You know, and so that's where we're looking at these very interesting strategy here by the DOJ that why they decided to wait until the final day of the statute limitations to try and extend it. To me, there—that's where the "don't get your hopes up" moment is. That clearly, even though he's admitting that this was his practice, and look, he loves this again. Let's—I think we do need to play this.

You know, he did go to social media, as you would expect, because James Comey. Not a man who's considered camera shy by any means. Any ways to make it in the news? We know he loves it, and that's okay. Look, some people feel that way.

They want to be on camera. We know he loved to make news. We know he loved to throw Hillary Clinton under the bus and then back off at the last second. We know he loves to play. You know, essentially, not only the victim, but he loves to meddle with what's going on.

And when you're talking about being a week away. From elections, it's not going to stop the social media accounts of James Cully. Let's hear what he had to say. Bite one. This was just today.

Well, they're back again. It would almost be funny if it weren't such an appalling abuse of the Department of Justice, one that we cannot become numb to. Nothing's changed with me. I'm still innocent. I'm still not afraid of these people, and I still believe in the independent federal judiciary.

And I'm still lucky to have an amazing family and an incredible group of lawyers, and we'll stand up in court and fight the latest and whatever comes after this. The next couple years are going to be hard for all of us. It's really important that we stand straight. And keep the faith in America. Of course, that was James Comey just yesterday on social media.

Pretty interesting to see those back to back. You really can't see the time—the ten years that has passed, or the eight years that has passed on all of us, not just on James Comey. But how long we've been—it really shows you, you know, sort of the telegraphing of time of how long we've been talking about these issues.

Well, and once again, when you look at this as well, and we we talked about this over the years about how crafty. James Comey was the things he would admit to, and the things, the games he would play with the law, and his abuse of power at the FBI. When you start to look at this, and this is count two, this is the conspiracy to transmit national defense information. It says between, between on or about a date unknown, but not later than October fourth, twenty sixteen, and up to and including the date of this filing in the District of Columbia, defendant James Bryan. Comey Jr.

and others, known and unknown, knowing and wilfully conspired and agreed together and with each other to violate eighteen USC, as set forth in count one, to wit, while lawfully possessing, accessing, controlling all this national security, national defense information. They, in furtherance of the conspiracy and objects thereof, the defendant, through one or more co-conspirators, directed individual number one to disclose national defense information to a reporter for a national news publication. They're even showing that he tried to insulate himself with this conspiracy charge; that it wasn't even directly he was the one that handed it off. He handed it off, and then someone told someone else leak it. It's setting up those.

Layers of protection around him, and why they are charging this conspiracy. The fact that they are saying one or more co-conspirators, I feel like that's where their investigation is. That is part of the question, but also, once again, why are we just now getting to this when we've known about these issues? But are they investigating other people of which they could get to turn or flip on James Comey and saying, yeah? I didn't hear directly from James, but I heard from my superior who told me to leak and push it forward to get this narrative out there.

But once again, then you're building a case on hearsay. I think that's why this is a more difficult prosecution than maybe why they went with the perjury one first. If they could convince people or they could convince a jury, look, he lied. Here's the evidence. That is probably easier than when you're dealing with a conspiracy that may have some hearsay.

That they'd have to prove. Yeah, and again, that ties into the whole like deep state phenomenon of which we've been talking about also for the last decade. The ACLU team, we're on the front lines right now. We need your support. Right now, with cases we have moving forward, they just sent me a whole list.

There's a deadline upcoming as we battle again the deep state, including some Arroyo cases, leading to a major discovery demand in lawsuit. Washington State, we've got a nativity battle happening right now, and an Easter display coming up.

So much happening as we head towards the end of the year. We're going to discuss that and more coming up. Right back. Moving towards the midterm elections being one week away, of course, a lot of you in your local market, you're probably getting ads like crazy of all your different. You're getting text messages.

You're getting everything from all your candidates. And people love those ads. Love them. I was in New York City. Just a couple days ago, and I have to tell you, more Republicans spend money.

I have to say on ads than I think probably should based on the voters in New York City.

So I'm watching it, going, I wonder if this is moving the needle at all. There's so many Republican candidates, like pro-Trump ads that I do like look around and go, like, is this worth it here in New York City?

Now I'm sure there are a lot. Like you have entire Staten Island, which is a very red area. There's a lot of red areas for the state, but according, of course, in the city is what I'm talking about. But those ads were non-stop. I mean, it was the whole time we were there.

And maybe you're in a market where the ads are getting a little bit more wild and a little bit more radical. We're going to get to that here in just a second. But I think this phone call will kind of lead us in the right direction. I want to take a call coming in from Anthony in Florida. Anthony, go ahead.

A long-time supporter and long-time listener, and glad to do that. I'm not a prophet, but based on what I heard and with the intentions on after 9/11 that they were setting wanting to set a mosque right on Ground Zero, I foresaw a rise of three individuals.

Now again, not a prophet, but and it's it's come to fruition. Also, Aid Piker and the clown, and who took the meritorial role in New York. Their intentions are, if you understand the religion and their agenda, is fully clear. Do you believe that the eyes of people are starting to open up and clearly see through the facade that these guys are putting forth as being guys you can trust your son as a Cub Scout leader or your daughters to? Yeah, Anthony, I don't know if they're hiding anything.

At this point, you know I agree with you that I feel like maybe it's changed the last decade. As you had these sort of more modern candidates that are running, like said Al Sayed or or Imam Dami. And look, there are Imam Dami T-shirts everywhere. My son talks about him because you know he was dropping references to Avatar: The Last Airbender this week. You know he's a very likable guy.

He's someone who I've actually said I'd love to talk to. I'd love to sit down with because what drives me crazy is almost everything he has to say. All of his positions drive me crazy. But they put off a very good, like you said, personality that make you feel like they're very likable human beings.

However, sometimes the facade is is not even that thin. And I want to play an ad. and Look, this is an ad that is being run in the local market right now, and this is, of course, in support of Al Sayed.

Now, this. Let's just be transparent and say they said this has nothing to do with us. As always, what you hear when there is an ad that gets run in your local market, that of course they need to be at least taking somewhat of the blame here because this is the kind of rhetoric that is being so easily spread. And is really germinating and becoming this just vile part of not just American politics but America in general right now.

So this is a a bit a campaign ad, and I don't like necessarily just playing a campaign ad, but I think you need to have it in context. And Will, why don't you set it up just a little bit for those who are who are watching or who are just listening? It's a couple. They're in a grocery store. That's right.

Actors portrayed. This is an attack ad on Mike Rogers. Who is running for Senate against El Sayed? And this is where they decide to go with it. It starts off thinking it's an economy-based ad, but then it takes a really dark turn.

Let's go ahead and run it for people. I know. What about the bananas? Yeah, I got them too. But, honey, what?

You're gonna have to put those eggs back. They don't like eggs anymore. No, they like eggs, but we have to set that seven dollars aside. For killing Palestinians? What?

I mean, don't we give Israel four billion dollars a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them another twenty-six billion dollars. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer? No. It's like a hundred and sixty-one dollars per person.

Apparently, it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza. It's terrible. Yeah. Don't they get universal health care too? Yeah, they do.

We're paying for that too, probably. Might as well put the bananas back. Why the do we have to pay for all this? Don't cuss at me. Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what Israelis want and so little about what you want?

Mike Rogers is for they them. Abdul and Sayed is for you.

So this album is wild. I mean, the last even bit, just being like, he's for them. You know those. Sneaky Jewish people.

Well, and here's the other problem too. And we can continue this conversation into future segments here. But they're trying to push back and say we had nothing to do with that. Once again, this is the another time they're having to push back instead of saying we condemn the language in there because first of all, the United States gives foreign aid to ninety percent of countries in the world. And you may disagree with that as a policy that the United States gives foreign aid to ninety percent of the countries in the world, but what you can't do is say it's the one country.

That is causing all of our problems, causing the price of eggs, the price of bananas that you can't afford. You can't afford groceries because Israel, right? When in reality, the amount of foreign aid in totality dwarfs what we give to Israel. When you add it all up, but here's the problem too. Who put this out?

This is from Jink Weiger from the Young Turks, who is the uncle. Of Hassan Piker, who Al Sayed has had to try and distance himself from. I'm just saying, oh, it's some streamer from California. Don't worry about him; it's not really influencing my campaign.

Now, Young Turks puts this out in support of him, and they don't say we condemn the language or the the message of it. They say we didn't put that out. Yeah, and I want you to hear, of course, if you want to say, okay, well, you guys, guys, of course, you're the ones who say this. I want you from Van Jones on CNN because Van has been very. Good about this topic specifically and pushing back.

So again, if you think it's just us, you know, some sort of you know right wing broadcast that's talking like this, here's Van Jones on CNN. Look, I I'm trying. I want to be very consistent here. I don't like hate. I don't like hate.

I don't like hateful rhetoric. I don't like it when it's against the Muslims. I don't like it when it's against the Jewish people or when it's against our ally in the Middle East. This is a very dangerous ad. Because what it does is it suggests that the reason that people can't pay for things in the grocery store, bananas, but bananas is because of you know the United States is giving all this money to Israel.

We give a very small amount of money to Israel compared to all the other foreign assistance that we do. But you're picking out the Jewish state, and you're pointing to the Jewish state. And of all the, we we we spend money in Qatar. We spend money all around the world. But you're going to say because of the Jewish state, that's why you're suffering.

Listen, when that happens, when you start getting people riled up, and you've seen this all through the last century against Jews. And blaming Jews for all your problems, you're headed down a dark pathway. I have spoken aggressively against the anti-Muslim hate in this campaign. This is an example of anti-Jewish hate, and it should be taken down immediately and denounced. And by the way, Abdul should denounce this ad immediately.

His campaign has distance itself. Distance itself not condemned, and I think that speaks volumes. And I think we should continue this conversation. Yeah, in future segments, we're going to. We're also going to pop back if you have a question or comment related to the Comey stuff.

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We just were talking about this new anti-Israel ad campaign that's being run in support of Al Sayed. Maybe you have something similar running. Look, I've gotten some locally here, especially during the during the. During the election earlier in this year, when we were trying to decide who was going to be the Republican candidate, that we're throwing people under the bus for their support of Israel, trying to tap in to that new, you know. Alt right scenario where Israel is now the enemy, and this is plays into both.

It's a horseshoe effect. I mean, you've had Tucker Carlson and people like that who have gone so far on the other side where they are endorsing candidates like Al Sayed. There are plenty of people who are doing that, and look, these are compelling speakers. These are people I understand the appeal. I am not shocked.

That he is an appealing candidate. I'm not shocked that Mom Danni is an appealing candidate. These guys are well-spoken. They're smart people. Even if you disagree with almost everything they stand for, and if we're dumb, we'll pretend that they are.

They are not.

So much so that they have ads that are being run that they have nothing to do with that are stoking and stoking extoking extreme rhetoric, hidden away, you know, with a veneer of comedy. Saying we can't afford bananas here in this grocery store because we are killing Palestinian people, the United States of America, and funding and anti is or funding Israel, and that's the reason why you can't afford eggs or bananas. I mean that is that is the entire statement. And then don't worry, you shouldn't be voting for Mike Rogers because he. You know he stands with those people.

I mean, it legitimately says that, and then it pops up. You see, you know, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and you see other people hopping up. I mean, today is the Israeli election. We're going to see a lot what happens today. People, a lot of people are voting for some sort of change.

We're going to discuss that with Jeff Balaban here. I believe in the next segment.

So don't go anywhere. And if you're kind of curious of how this election cycle runs in Israel. It may we may not have an answer today. It starts today, but then forming a government. There's a whole.

It's a mess, right? And we'll get to that. But I also I want to say something to people that consider themselves libertarians or more libertarian minded, because I see the anti semitism that has festered now in that movement. And you think of people like Thomas Massey who who tried to portray themselves as this this libertarian, were against foreign aid. But here is the problem: is that when you look at the fact that the United States gives foreign aid to ninety percent Of the countries in the world, you may disagree with that.

You may also disagree with it across the board, economic and military aid, because you don't want to get into wars. Here's the problem: they all attach on the 3.8 billion that's given to Israel and say that's the problem. It's the cause of all your problems. That's just anti-Semitism, and you can say no, it's not. No, it's not.

But you better believe that if you are not going down the list and saying every single one of these. Has to be scratched because this is what the budget that dwarfs the amount of money given to Israel is also causing economic problems. Then you're lying to yourself when you say you're not being anti-Semitic. And when you also look at the amount of our federal budget, six trillion dollars a year, three point eight billion is a fraction of a percent. There is a lot that you can complain about that is causing economic disarray in this country, if you will, that has for decades.

But if you only point at Israel, like Thomas Massie and those on the right that decide that this is now what we have to tout in order to get people to join our side, then believe me, you, if you believe them, are anti-Semitic as well. Phone lines are open for you. Jeff Balaban is going to be joining us, the head of ACLJ Jerusalem. Remember, when you support the work of the ACLJ, you're supporting a worldwide effort.

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All right, we do have some phone lines open, and after this segment, I would love to hear from you. And we're going to take things over now. The phone lines are open one eight hundred six eight four. Three one one zero. We're taking things over to ACLJ Jerusalem with Jeff Balaban.

Of course, a big day in Israel, Jeff, as the elections are here now. The first election really since October seventh, three years ago.

Now I have to explain to people, and maybe you can help explain. It is a little different than American elections. We we are dealing with a different scenario. We're not necessarily going to know official answers today, and in general, the answers aren't always as clear cut in terms of the coalition governments, and it's just very not how we do things here.

So maybe you can give people a little bit before we go into how things are looking and feeling there, just what the system is like in Israel in terms of how these elections roll out. Sure.

Well, obviously, in America, we have basically a two-party system. Even though there are other smaller parties, but it's been two parties more or less throughout. And there are primaries, right, within those parties.

So in Israel, there are many, many parties.

Some of those parties have internal primaries, some don't. And it's a pure parliamentary system, so there's no chief executive the way we have in America. We have the executive branch, which is a separate branch from the legislature. Instead, the parliament is elected based on numbers of seats or mandates that the different parties get. There's a threshold; it's four.

Now it's it's been four. It's been five. They want to bring it down to three. Basically, I think the threshold now is four seats. If you don't have Enough votes to, based on the total number of votes to have four seats, out of the 120 members of the Knesset, then you simply are not included.

Then, once all that dust settles, the President, because there is a President, but he's not the chief executive; it's a little more ceremonial, a little closer to the vice President than America. Really, the President then declares which party will lead the forming of the coalition.

Now, this could be not just days; it could be weeks. Before that happens, because immediately there's there's struggles among the different coalition parties to to form or not form a coalition to get to the magic number sixty one, which is obviously a simple majority of the hundred and twenty member Knesset.

Now. Over laying over that is an issue. There, there was an attempt to disqualify the Arab parties. There, there are some parties that are mixed.

Well, there is one party that's mixed: Jews and Arabs. In terms of the the people who have the seats, right, the candidates. And depending on where you're in the list, that's that's that's where whether or not you're going to be in the top of the list may be elected. The top four seats may be in, the top ten seats may be in, but you might be number twenty-five on the list and not get in, right?

So the there there's an right now polling, and again, polling in Israel is pretty much as unreliable as polling in America. Yeah, it's it's it's been wrong throughout, but the polling and and there are vast divergences in the polling even now. Most of the polls would show the Arab parties would get fourteen to sixteen seats. That's significant, right? And the question is, can a coalition be formed without them?

And that has a lot of resonance right now because those Arab parties, while they are Israeli Arab Israelis, and they vote and they're full citizens. A lot of them, their sympathies are very much with the with with Israel's enemies. A lot of them advocate for things that are really shocking, that they're nonetheless included in in Israel's democracy, but they are, and so and that becomes a political hot potato. The other political hot potato, another sector which is considered a small sector but a growing and powerful sector, is the Haredi sector, what's called ultra orthodox in America, we call them ultra orthodox, and they're. One of their major issues, and there's now a new charity party, but there are a couple of traditional ones, is is not serving in the military, and there are all kinds of political and religious reasons for it.

The military is not really geared towards that kind of a lifestyle, but And but until October seventh, there wasn't really a need for them.

Now there's a feeling that there is a need for more people and more young young men to serve, and so that has become a very hot political issue.

So there are lots of different issues going on there. I will say that that early.

Well, it's not not early anymore. Polling closes around four p.m. our time. Early polling, early early results are massive turnout. Really massive turnout.

It's unclear how that reads. I know that a lot of people feel there needs to be a change in the status quo, but they're not sure which direction needs to be. And you could stop me because I'm giving all kinds of varied elements here. No, because I see a lot of people do are posting just they're voting for change, and it's unclear of what that change necessarily is. Just that they maybe.

Also, I saw a report. I think some people didn't understand. This and again when they go after Israel, of course we we've seen now like the ads and everything that happens. And again, this was one of the things that popped in my feed, so I haven't verified the fact. But two million Arabs or so are voting in this Israeli election, something like that, or some sort of number are eligible to two million.

Two million. No, they're two million Arab residents and citizens. They're not all eligible to vote.

Okay, the yes, of course not all able to vote, but. When we talk about this, of course, with Israel, your mind jumps to because the way that the rhetoric has become so extreme of going well, clearly they wouldn't have the right to vote here, but no, of course they're they're they're there. They serve in Knesset. They serve on the Supreme Court. Famous states where they sent the President of the country to jail.

But it's just a more time conversation that happens, Jeff.

So much. Honestly, the the great things. I know it's unusual because I spend so much time in Israel. But you know, walk anywhere, any public space, whether it's the Knesset or the beach, whether it's the Supreme Court or the cafe, and you'll see just as many hijabs, right? And and you're just as much Arabic as you'll see kippot and.

And in many places, and you know, Yarmulkes and hearing Israel Hebrew.

So, I mean, there's a gym I go to in Jerusalem that that it is it is the languages are Hebrew, Arabic, Russian, English, and Thai, and you hear and it's basically equal, and everyone's talking to, and it's it's really not like it's being presented. Actually, I wanted to say something that you guys were talking about before. I was thinking about this. You know, people don't know if I ask most Americans to name the The interior minister, the minister of security for Germany or Japan, they look at me like I am nuts, right? They don't even know most of the cabinet members are here, and yet somehow Ben-Gvir's name becomes famous.

Ben-Gvir, so so, and the argument is because we spend so much money on Israel, okay, three point eight billion dollars, all of which comes back to America, right? And none of our troops there.

Meanwhile, Germany and Japan, it's twenty something billion dollars a year that we're spending, and we have troops stationed there. And yet, nobody knows the name of their ministers. Nobody seems to care what's going on in their streets. This has nothing to do with the economy. It has nothing to do with politics.

This is, as you guys were talking about before, this is just about a Jew obsession, a hostile, negative Jew obsession, because it makes no sense. I don't think people recognize we're spending 20 plus billion dollars. 21 billion in Germany. 27 billion in Japan. We have troops there since it's been it's been decades.

It's been it's been since World War II. Right. No one complains about that.

Well, and I think that that shows the entire intention of those that are making that three point eight billion. They're sticking point that is ruining the lives of Americans, in their words. But once again, we talk about this this election. They're saying historic turnout, record turnout, and even that into the American mind that is in many ways been programmed that Bibi's the bad guy. It doesn't mean that all of a sudden, if if Bibi Netanyahu.

Who were no longer prime minister, that say the the opposition gets more, and they are able to give have the opportunity to form the government, and they form a government that now does not include Bibi Netanyahu as prime minister. That doesn't mean one that that government is saying we don't need to protect Israeli citizens anymore, and all of a sudden all these Arab countries are our friends. Because that's not reality. That's what they may want you to believe here on the ground in America, but the policy differences. When it comes to Israel, are are what things that people don't even read about here in the United States to some degree because it's not what you're being told.

That's right.

No, the argument actually is comes from the exact other end.

Well, you make a very important point, which is, which is to the degree that people are supporting Netanyahu, it has to do with that they appreciate the way the war was waged after October seventh, and they appreciate the way he he works with President Trump and the way they they went after Iran, which was actually a threat to both of our nations, and they did it in the most unbelievable possible way.

Okay, great. To the degree that they want change, a lot of the argument is that October seventh happened on his watch.

So, so, so the argument isn't he's too he's too strong and in in waging war. The argument was he was too weak.

So again, the the dynamic is. The pretty much the polar opposite of what's being portrayed by the media, Israel. It is there is a very broad consensus, except for real extremes, that the idea of a Palestinian state, another Palestinian state, because they see Jordan as a Palestinian state. It is ethnically the exact same people. It it it currently sits on eighty percent of the land that was recognized as the Jewish indigenous national national home.

So why would they get another? X percent of of Israel's territory, which Israel needs to survive, and after the experience of giving Gaza. To the Arabs, completely, and said, "You know what? Fine. You don't want to live with us.

Here you go. And here's greenhouses, and you can support yourselves, and we'll help you." And it was turned into a major terror factory that just exported nothing but horror for for the Jews and misery for the Arabs. They're not likely to do that in Judean Samaria, what's known as the West Bank. And Israel understands that that is not on the table now at all. Jeff, either from either side.

I'll cut you off for time. Thank you so much for joining us. One of the things I want people also to look at. Look at the protests that were happening—the anti-Netanyahu protests—and look at the anti-Trump, the "no kings" kind of protests that are happening. Look at the amount of people that are on the streets, and guess what happened?

Nothing. You know what?

So tell me that we're not living in the countries of freedom here, because that happens in those other countries, and the government has extreme tens of thousands of people show up to the streets. Guess what happens? We saw what happened in Iran. We saw what happened in other nations.

So be proud that you live in a country where that can actually still happen, and that happens, by the way, in both America and in Israel. We'll be back in just a minute. Taking your calls, coming up in just a second. Last segment of the day. I do want to hear from you.

A lot of you are watching right now, but guess what? I got no calls right now.

Well, I blame you. It's my fault. It is because everyone's out there early voting. That's probably, or maybe they're in Israel. You know, that's what they're gonna say.

They're like, it's because all of those listeners are. Israelis. Oh no, they're all voting right now. They're all, they're all. You know what?

They also their polls stay open until 10 p.m. in Israel. Yeah. Well, they're a later night group. I know, but it's like people complain about how early the polls close here, but it's like in Israel they actually have a system where they get to vote later.

Less people after dinner vote. That would be the greatest. You go, you have a nice dinner, and then go vote. You discuss beforehand, right? Who you got?

What you got on Prop 238? Right, I don't know what two thirty eight by the way is. I am just that was a random number. Yeah, I hopefully that's nothing. Thirty eight was a good band.

Two thirty, that's well, that's why I went to two thirty eight, but I didn't know. I don't know what I just endorsed. That's fine. You know what's interesting too about I want to get back to this because that Elsayed ad really, really bothers me. Because of how brazen it is with its message, right?

And once again, the foreign aid issue. When you talk about it, and we talk about if you have to be, if you are only pinpointing that three point eight billion dollars in military aid that goes to Israel, then and not targeting every other foreign aid, which is, I think, can be a legitimate policy position. That you think that you know the United States should not be sending money overseas. You can have that disagreement with American foreign policy, but if the only foreign aid you disagree with is Israeli, then what you are seeing is anti-Semitism in yourself. Because the other difference with how this foreign aid operates with a lot of others is, and you could have a problem with this as a policy thing.

We send the money to Israel. They buy American munitions, so that money goes straight back to the American economy to buy military. To goes to defense companies, which you may have a problem with, and then they get taxed, and a lot of that money goes back into the system.

So it's a subsidy of an American industry, which once again you may have problems with subsidizing American industry with government taxpayer dollars. But if you're just blaming the Israelis, as they are in that ad. You are fostering anti-Semitism in your own beliefs, and when even in that ad they talk about, you know, we have to set aside the seven dollars for killing Palestinians, that is not reality. And then they even go so far as to say, "But they get universal health care in Israel. I guess we're paying for that too." Our foreign aid to Israel is military foreign aid.

It isn't to prop up their economy. The they do. Pretty good on their own of having a great economy, really innovative tech sector. A lot of the information sharing and everything that the United States does with Israel props up our own tech sector.

So all of this, it's it just gets under my skin when you sit here and you look at one line item that in the American economic reality. Of trillions of dollars, over six trillion dollar American budget, you're pinpointing 3.8 billion as the cause of the world's problems. It's it would be laughable if it weren't so serious. What the undertone is, and the undertone is, it's Jews' fault, it's Israel's fault. All of this, it's thousand year old.

Anti-Semitic tropes that, once again, they will not go away, even in 2026, and you're seeing it propped up in ads. It feels so dark when you watch that ad again, and you just think. Man, they're really saying this. Yeah, and they're saying it in just a very brazen way to be like, "Look, we know you don't support Israel, and we know you don't support." Of course, who supports quote unquote killing of anyone? Not necessarily just mean they say killing of Palestinians.

Like, look, I think all of us would like to live in a world where there is no war. I'm talking to my friends who are you know you know totally anti war, anti war people in general. And look, I would love to be there, but I also love to live. In reality, and the reality is, war is here. As much as I don't want there to be war anywhere, if you had to give me an option, of course I would choose no war.

I think that would be hopefully most rational people would want that. But in reality, we live in a world that is very broken, and where there is threats going on to all countries, especially all countries that have any sort of Western values. Look what's happening. We can say from war, or even just attacks, or or destruction. Look what's happening in Europe over the last few weeks.

Look what's happening in countries we never give any attention to, here in America, because we can't even fathom the unrest. That is happening in parts of our parts of the world. We never talk about really North Korea anymore. We never talk about what's happening in Nigeria and and the Congo and all these different places. These are things that are very, very.

Terrifying. If you really were to break down what's happening, we live in a bubble, a westernized bubble, where the only ones that we do focus on are countries that we can at least have some sort of it feels like connection to, and maybe that's why Israel has become the enemy because you can find some American values in it. Maybe that's why the really the rise in in violence happening in Europe. Is becomes front page story because we can at least find some Western values in it, and there is a plan, as there has been for years and years and years, to destroy and dismantle those Western values. And even when you have a country that tries its best, look look at what's going on in Riyadh, in Saudi Arabia, a country that has tried to reform aggressively over the last decade has made huge steps forward, steps that we would consider.

Let's just be honest. A relic of a hundred years ago in America, in terms of women's rights and those kind of things, they're just now getting there. What's happening? They're being bombed by their neighbors, are being bombed by terrorist organizations that don't like. That they're destroying their air their their airports and all these things because they don't like that they are trying to play on the Western stage.

Well, and I want to remind you what the people like Al Sayed and like Mandami what they say about Israel. That's an apartheid state. And go back to what you were bringing up about the voters in Israel. Eighteen percent of the eligible voters are Arab. That's what they are over a million.

Eighteen percent. Yeah, it's one point one million is what this figure is. But here are the Headlines about today's election, and put this in the context of what they call an apartheid state. Will Arabs be Israel's kingmakers? Israel's shatter turnout records in elections.

Arab voters could be key. What's behind the rise of Palestinian vote in Israel's 2026 election? Tell me again, they're an apartheid state. What apartheid state is allowing twenty oh nearly twenty percent of their electorate be the people that they're trying to keep separate? And the headlines are all saying they could be the ones who decide the government.

Yeah, give me a break. If we had twenty percent of the United States of America voting really one way or the other and a different, we'd shift the entire entire election. You got to remember the size of Israel that we're really talking about here. You know, they always say the size of New Jersey here, but the global impact of what could happen here. Look, I'm not saying that some of those numbers aren't scary because who knows?

You know, who's going to end up in power? And Israel, I think there are a lot of people who dislike, as Jeff said, the Netanyahu administration. I think a lot of people, President Trump, obviously supports it because, oddly enough, as as as he said. They blame the Netanyahu administration over the lack of security during October seventh. Yeah, that's at least a discussion point.

That's at a very American kind of discussion point. Look what happened post nine eleven. After things settled down, there was a lot of conversation around. You know, were we prepared for this?

So again, that doesn't necessarily bother me when you actually have free and fair elections. That being said, it's election night in Israel, and one week away from election night in America. And with that, I want you to join with us. Our legal fights continue. This show continues on.

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