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November 12, 2026 1:16 pm

President Trump is putting Vice President JD Vance on a new mission: rooting out what he calls "Massive Corruption and Crime taking place in Democrat run Cities and States" (e.g., California, Illinois, and Minnesota). In a Truth Social post, the President also declared, "We don't need a deal with Iran," just one day after reports that Vance could lead renewed talks with Tehran. The Sekulow team discusses Vance's expanded role as the Trump Administration's "fraud czar," the latest breaking news out of Washington, the ACLJ's legal work – and much more.

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An announcement this morning: President Trump sidelines JD Vance on Iran, keeping you informed and engaged.

Now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments. For call, one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.

Welcome to Sekulow. It is another show, November twelfth. 2026. Welcome to the broadcast. Will Haynes joining me in studio.

Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. And a statement from President Trump this morning on Truth Social. I think we need to talk about this. What this could mean for the impact, not only in the war in Iran, but obviously the now kick-off start to the race 2028. Said I have asked Vice President Vance to focus his complete and total.

Massive corruption and crime taking place in Democrat-run cities and states throughout the U.S.

Okay, that's you know seems simple enough, but then goes on. It goes on. You know, kind of talks about that, and then hits you with, "We don't need to deal with Iran." Those days have long since passed. We've got their money, hundreds of billions of dollars, and we've got their straight. This comes as ongoing talks were being reported that JD Vance wanted to resume.

Face to face conversations, negotiations with the current regime in Iran.

So at the same time of saying I've told Vice President Vance to focus on America, he has also essentially kicked him off. Of his work in Iran. That's right, and as you mentioned, this is something that J.D. Vance it sounded like was pushing for a face to face sit down with Iranian leadership to try and salvage some sort of deal. This all is in the context of that post by J.D.

Vance where he went very strong and said, "Hey, guess what? The entire reason we lost was because of how we were." Iran, so they were sitting there in the in the White House, and and clearly, this is what the vice President was coming up with: was that you know we we really need to to change our messaging, change what we're going to do on Iran. When in reality, some of the statistics and data also showed that the Memorandum of Understanding, the MOU, that was really spearheaded by J.D. Vance, was part of the reason that people were so frustrated because it delayed finishing the job. Militarily, but right now you're having at a time where people were wondering, you know, what is the who's in the presidency?

Here is it going to be JD Vance, who who obviously elevated that conversation, or is it going to be the Secretary of State Marco Rubio? Is it going to be Stephen Miller, the Chief of Staff? This seems like a Stephen Miller moment. And look at the same time. To kind of give you the reverse of what this is, there was reports that were leaked saying that there was a what they were calling an explosive conversation between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu over what the future of the war in Iran looks like.

Now, President Trump's statement to J.D. Vance said, "We don't want to negotiate. We're done with that. That is long since past." It didn't say we're resuming the war.

However, it's kind of saying we already won the war. What Prime Minister Netanyahu allegedly was trying to do was to kick things back off.

Now, with the war, now we know Israel is dealing with its own set of political fallout. What do you think about all of this heading in now to just a two-year span leading up to a new presidency? We are seeing maybe these light signals. And look, not only President Trump has had great relationships with his vice Presidents in the past, necessarily, so it would be nothing new for him to come out and make some changes that would position someone else to be able to take over his position. I would love your thoughts on this one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten, as well as the continued push to Israel.

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So we need you today at aclj.org. Welcome back. Sekulow phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. For those of you just joining us right now, we know we have a lot of people that join us a few minutes in. President Trump made a statement this morning, essentially sidelining JD Vance, telling him it's time to focus on what's going on in the states and don't worry about Iran anymore.

I mean, that is a summary, but not that far off. I have asked Vice President Vance to focus his complete and total attention. On the massive corruption and crime taking place in Democrat-run cities and states throughout the U.S. continues on. Later on, we do not, or we don't.

I'm going to quote directly: "We don't need a deal with Iran. Those days have long since passed. We've got their money, hundreds of billions of dollars, and we've got their straight." This obviously comes as Vice President Vance suggested to reopen lines of communication and to begin those negotiation talks once again.

So, if that's not Then you have reports coming out that President Trump had a pretty aggressive, explosive conversation with Prime Minister Netanyahu in Israel, because Vice President Netanyahu—not Vice President—Prime Minister Netanyahu said he would like to resume the war in Iran.

So neither of those really point to a definitive answer here, but we do know there are a lot of people in President Trump's ear.

Now, deciding what the future is for this conflict and how it's going to play out over the next two years could really be a determining factor of who becomes the GOP nominee.

Well, and once again, when you ever you look at these types of decisions, when most of Washington probably looks at it being a yes or no choice, whether or not it's restart or or stop and have full negotiations diplomatically, President Trump here is seems to be offering a third. Third way, which is status quo, that he he's not concerned about the Strait of Hormuz at this time. He's not concerned about Iran's money and being able to foment terror throughout the region or the world. At the same time, though, you are seeing an interesting move here, where there are more and more cabinet members being moved to military bases to be in more secure housing. The Secretary of Treasury Scott Bessent was actually moved to military housing.

Secretary of War already was Marco Rubio. Secretary of State already was in military housing, and these are on bases that are around D.C., so they're still in the area, obviously. But it's a much more secure than rather than being in a townhome in in Georgetown, right?

So you're seeing that move already. That the the concern of Iran targeting members of the cabinet specifically is causing them to take extra precautions, not just having Security at their home, but actually moving them to more secure facilities.

So that is a clearly a realistic threat that they are concerned about in the safety of the cabinet and the government. At the same time. You are having this debate that was really the bandaid ripped off by JD Vance right after the midterm losses, blaming all that solely on the Iran War, which is is. I feel like the vice President is smarter than that, right? I mean, he he went to Yale.

He's a very smart man. He's very accomplished. The fact that he would point one hundred percent this is because the Iran War, it was just feeding into a section of. The conservative base that is anti-Iran war and has become increasingly anti-Israel. Instead, what you see here is the President not taking the bait.

There, he has said in in tarmac interviews and press conferences that he would do everything that he did with Iran over again. He's not admitting that he did anything wrong per se, and then also that maybe it didn't reflect upon the American people well. They did not necessarily like. He doesn't necessarily did anything wrong. Wouldn't change anything, right?

However, understands there were ramifications to it. But what you're also seeing now, you you see what we even talked about yesterday, where you had Van Jones saying that the Democrats, you know, astroturfed this kind of campaign around affordability. All of these things that kind of came together at once. It worked for them, yeah. But also pointing to just the Iran War as why millions and millions of people stayed.

Home and did not vote is such a short-sighted one. If that's your genuine analysis, is extremely short-sighted. If it is your political analysis to further your career, as I mean, you're the vice President, but setting up for a future run, then that's it. Appears exactly what it is, and I think the President didn't take that necessarily the way by giving him another win of saying, "Fine, you can start these peace negotiations." Yeah, but in another way, I mean, if J.D. He's focusing on what's happening in the states here.

He's focusing on the economy, the corruption, and I think he's chair of the task force to eliminate fraud. If you see success there, more people care about what's happening in our own country than care about what's happening in Iran.

So it does also set him up. Though it does sideline him from the international standpoint, it could set him up for a big domestic win if he can figure it out. Easier said than done, but of course it's been one of the things. It's not just totally that all of a sudden the vice President has nothing to do.

Well, I think to that point as well because it's still all is helpful for the Trump administration. You look at these final two years. What are things that the executive branch can accomplish? I think one thing, and actually that I would give credit to J.D. Vance.

He has been extremely effective going to those press conferences, unveiling fraud with U.S. attorneys with the attorney. General, showing look what we found. Here's who's being prosecuted. He comes across very strong and in a good imagery for the administration and a very good communicator for the administration in those situations.

That I think for the President and his legacy, that is the best place to put him. Him focusing on that. We know massive corruption and fraud in all of these situations. States are still a very big concern of the American people. I think it is the right place to use the vice President's talents.

It's a proclamation, right? This is where it gets a little more interesting. I called Will, but we were prepping the show. I was on the way. I said we were on this board meeting.

I had to get back in, so I was running late. Again, all of a will tells me this, you know that that JD Vance been sidelined out Iran, and I kind of thought it was like something that was being reported in the news, like you know it happened. Like right now, like the Yahoo Trump call. It's not like President Trump went out and said, "I had a terrible phone call." Like that's not what happened. It is a report.

No, President Trump actually went on Truth Social and made a pretty large proclamation, specifically, kind of telling JD Vance, "I'm reassigning you. Stay in your lane, bro." It's a little different when it comes as a statement from the President, not just a. Report that would come out through Washington D.C. Beltway News, right? Because here is the two different articles per se.

One's a hypothetical. One's what really happened, coming from the Wall Street Journal with the same headline.

So, Wall Street Journal, this is the actual headline: Trump reverses course on Iran, tells Vance to focus on U.S. crime. If it had said.

Sources close to the White House and decision makers say that the President has decided to utilize the vice President to focus on crime instead, delegating the Iran war to his secretary of war and secretary of state. That would be one thing, and not that newsy of a story. Here's what the article actually says. President Trump said Thursday that the U.S. didn't need a deal with Iran and would prefer Vice President J.D.

Vance, who has taken the lead in negotiations, to work on investigating American cities run by Democrats. That and then it's just the straight quote from Truth Social that he posted. That is a remarkable lead sentence in a in a newspaper in this day and age because normally you don't get those type of proclamations, and that is the difference here between President Trump and any other modern politician. Personnel matters or strategy within the White House is normally not proclaimed by the President the way it is. Here you go back to calling it the Apprentice White House in a way where you see the pitting against each other some of his top deputies to see you know who survives finding out who survives in which idea he thinks is the best by who can present it better.

This seems almost like a you're fired kind of moment. Not fully, he's not being taken out, but saying you know what you were taking the lead on this and maybe I don't like what you're doing anymore. Go focus. On the thing that I know is important, and you can do a good job with, but almost as if you've been failing on Iran. Here, we know that the vice Presidential role has always been one that has come with conflict.

It feels like because they do operate very differently than the President and his cabinet. It feels like they are not always on the same page. They are not in each other's ear. And I'm not talking about just President Trump and Vice President Vance. I'm talking about historically.

Over yeah, two hundred fifty years or whatever it is that's been a vice President. That they have operated a bit independently, and sometimes that comes at the detriment of a cohesive relationship within the government.

So you may have a better relationship just based on the fact that they're in each other's lives more with a Marco Rubio or Stephen Miller or whoever it may be that is inside the Oval Office more than you do have the Vice President who you see operating in these kind of more independent ways.

Now, obviously, when it comes To the actual politicking, getting out there when they were they both were on the road quite a bit, trying to turn the tides of this election, and maybe that's part of it. You see what the reality is of the situation. We get back. I want to take some calls on this. What do you think about this situation?

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Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you. One eight hundred six eight four three one ten. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. A lot of people are calling in about this situation with President Trump and JD Vance as it's starting to get a little bit more public.

Maybe some of the disagreements that are happening between the President and the vice President. But that being said, I'm going to take some of these calls. But I want to talk about some of the work of the ACLJ here to kick us off because I think it's always important for you to understand. Yes, we cover the news. We'll talk about what's happening.

We'll give you our analysis, and I think it's great. But remember, this organization goes well.

Well beyond what's happening in the daily news, the work continues on and on. Will we get an update? That's right, and this is a really important one. This is one that you've seen similar type stories that we have had to represent different doctors, nurses, medical professionals over the years when it comes down to keeping their job or or staying true to their beliefs, and and that's really what you see here. This stems from a Biden administration era rule.

Where after the Dobbs decision was overturned, you saw some states starting to put more restrictions on abortion. What the Biden administration decided to do is then say, "Hey, guess what? You can get abortions at VA hospitals and medical facilities." So this is a a client. That was a department head, the emergency department director at a VA medical center, and he, as soon as they put this forward, filed a conscience claim, saying, "I need an exemption from being forced to perform abortions." He and his entire department all had similar convictions. And then he was told by by individuals that you are a part of administration.

You can either get on board or find another job.

Well, that's violation of many things, protections, constitutional rights, as well as other protections from EEOC, etc. And we filed a complaint with the Department of Health and Human Services. And this is also important: why administrations, when they change, you have to keep fighting because now the VA, at the direction of HHS, looked into it and have opened an official investigation. Into this, so we are fighting to make sure that Title VII protections of federal employees based on discrimination are enforced, and that they are not forced to violate their faith or their conscience just because an administration wants to get across a political win. And that's exactly what happened here.

So we wanted to give you an update. This is it's a big development that the VA, the Veterans Affairs Department, has officially decided. To open an investigation to find out what happened here and to rectify this situation, so he resigned from his job because the medical director said, "Either get on board or find another job." That shouldn't happen in the United States of America, and it did. Yeah, and the ACLJ team is in action right now, and I need you to support the work that continues on. Our legal work is so important.

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And I love when you come up to me in public and say, "Hey, I'm an ACLJ champion." Always brings a smile to my face, and know how much my family and how much this organization appreciates all of you, whether it's a one-time gift or as a ACLJ champion. With that, tons of you have called in with a lot of different points of view. I have to say, it feels like if they wanted to create some sort of division within conservatives, President Trump's statement this morning may have put that into high gear. Let's kick it off with one on one side. Let's go to Danielle, who's calling in Texas.

Watch it on YouTube. Go ahead. Yeah, can you hear me all right? Yep, you're great. Perfect.

Uh, yep. I'm a Christian conservative. I've been with y'all since. I'm an original. See you at the poll, kid.

Awesome. Awesome. Same.

So I go back with y'all. Um, I agree with J.D. Vance specifically because. I have friends that are on both sides of the aisle, like extreme sides of the aisle. I think we all do.

That's good. That's healthy, Danielle. Yes, yeah, yeah. They keep me in check. Um, they flipped to vote for Trump this last time because of Biden, and then they flipped Texas blue.

Right. And I say that because they are in the 36 counties that voted completely blue, almost. Because of the Iran War, we are all middle class people, and financially, it is destroying us. Gas is destroying us. Eggs are destroying us.

Even though we have chickens and stuff, and you know, I work on a ranch, and it's just it's harder than Trump is letting on. And I think it has to do with the people he has around him. In saying that, with us flipping blue, we need to remember that we have to pray for the leaders on both sides of the aisle. Of course, it doesn't matter the color. But that's that's what I have to say, Danielle.

I think that's a great statement, and I think that that's actually absolutely true. That people vote primarily with the their pocketbook. They see what's going on in the economy, and it's tough. I am not discounting that at all. I think when when we go, everyone fills up a guess or take a guess.

I don't care if you are in the upper upper one percent, or you are in you know middle class, or you are looking at a number that feels astronomical when you are ordering fast food and the price that comes back to feed your family of four or five seems out you know out of the planet extraordinarily high for what you're getting. People feel that they understand it, and they are voting a certain way.

So we do have to at least have a come to Jesus moment here. Going, people voted for a very specific reason. They may tell you, and it may be some of those issues, the more social issues. I feel like a lot of it just comes down to they're suffering, and they're going to change it up. And what does that look like?

And maybe someone else can do a better job. And it's historically how things have happened.

Well, and I think to Danielle's point as well, the messaging has been so terrible from conservatives and from conservative candidates across the board. And that's where it was an easy opening for them to use the affordability mantra that they picked up. Because where were they during the Biden administration when we were seeing year over year, multiple months in a row of nine percent and. Inflation—that's that compounds when you have it at that rate, and so they also were able to push push misinformation, like you saw El Sayed that had that ad that it took him forever and he would never fully disavow that the Young Turks put out that said eggs are seven dollars because I have to send that money to kill Palestinian children. Neither of which were true anymore.

Eggs are not seven dollars anymore. That was the Biden administration.

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Will Haines in studio. For those just joining us, recapping: President Trump put out a statement this morning, sidelining Vice President Vance and his work in Iran. He said, "I've asked Vice President Vance to focus his complete and total attention on the massive corruption and crime taking place in Democrat-run cities and states throughout the U.S." Later on, he would write, "We don't need to deal with Iran. Those days have long since passed. We've got their money, hundreds of billions of dollars, and we've got their straight." This comes as.

President Vance was pursuing a return to negotiations, back to the table with the leadership in Iran.

So President Trump saying essentially, you know, we're done with that. We're going to reassign you somewhere else. A lot of you are calling in right now about this.

So I want to make sure we have time to take all of your calls. Continue to call in one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. They're all over the map today, and I kind of love that—the fact that we have a bit of diversity in terms of the points of view that are calling in. Let's start with Don in Illinois. We already had our last call.

Who had something to say? I think this will counterbalance that one a little bit. Don, go ahead. Yeah, man, there's so much to talk about today. I think the first thing is is Vance.

I think President President Trump put Vance in his place, and the reason why is because if you've ever read the Bible, when it comes to David and Saul. Saul got upset because David started getting too much attention, and what happens is I think Vance is thinking about 2028, and he's he's messing up because Trump's going to clip his wings, and I think the only person we got is possibly Rubio, possibly DeSantis. He doesn't have any really charisma. But I just want to say one other thing: the blow, the blowback on forever war. You know, you're always going to have wars.

But what happens is, what Trump was talking about forever wars. He's talking about I'm not going to get us in a war where we're there forever. And this isn't a forever war. This is a necessity. And the one last thing: Israel will attack Iran, whether we go with them or not.

And I think that. What they're. That's what Trump is looking at, and I think that's why they're moving this guy to a base. Yeah, but Don, Don, I want to just top in here because I mean, one, you're correct. I mean, we know that even Christ Himself told His disciples that there will always be war and rumors of war.

That this is a thing that is ingrained in humanity. Is that? Unfortunately, yeah, there will always be war and rumor of war. When you start to to peel it back, though. As you as you were talking about, I mean, twenty twenty eight.

I think there is going to be surprises of who decides to run and who pops up. There always is, but still a long road ahead, right? To that point as well, though, the forever war messaging won very easily for the left, as well as. A very big portion of people on the right, so much so that it it may have caused some people decide to stay home and not vote. It may have caused some people to flip their vote.

It definitely made people the way it was messaged online and in certain podcast communities disenfranchised from that what they thought they voted for, disenchanted with it. But the reality is, is yeah, you can't call something a forever war when there's no boots on the ground. There's just been air strikes, effectively. Really. And and it, for all intents and purposes, seemed to accomplish the goals that were set out.

What was not accomplished very well, the messaging. Yeah, the messaging that this would be wrapped up. Remember how many times it was. Oh, it's going to end this week. It's going to end next week.

But that's also I think part of the problem of J.D. Vance is that he was getting in there doing things like the memorandum of understanding, pushing things off. It was that tension between the the more hawkish side, the Rubios and the and the Hegses. And the more dovish side of JD Vance saying, "Let's not go as aggressively." And what do you get? You get that push and pull, and it delays it.

You know, and our last caller brought up, you know, who the slate of GOP candidates may be, and brought up Ron DeSantis. Clearly, Ron DeSantis making waves, trying to you know, he's all over the news, all over social media. You know, I'm a fan. I enjoyed what he did in Florida. I hope Byron Donalds continues on a lot of that.

I think he'll do a great job in Florida as well. But you don't want to peek too early. It's something we got to be careful on for any of these candidates. Whether it's a JD Vance, whether it's Marco Rubio, whether it's Ron DeSantis, or maybe you do because we'll have a new crap of people who maybe we're not even thinking of yet. We get back, we're going to continue take calls.

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We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. We are trying to connect with Jeff Balaban in Israel from our ACLJ Jerusalem office.

However, between now and then, let's take some calls. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. That's one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Let's go to Bobby in New York. Bobby, obviously making some airtime this week.

Bobby, go ahead. Hi guys, I think that J. D. Vance being in the Trumpers' ear hurt Trump with the electorate because I feel it caused Donald Trump to be wishy-washy on Iran. And if I feel if Trump would have been more decisive on Iran, maybe the war would have been finished.

And of and the economy wouldn't have been affected, and Trump wouldn't have been in that kind of trouble about the economy. That's my take, guys.

Well, I think some of that is true, and some of it came very close to the end. Remember how many proclamations were made just the day of the general election for the midterms? Yeah, the right. We're going to defund Israel. We're going to do all these things.

A lot of it feels like hard turns that maybe were a little too late. Even if you disagreed with them, if they were going to make any sort of impact, President Trump, you're. Right, I mean, there may be that as well. Maybe it did hurt in the long run. I don't really know if anything would have changed just based on how the economy is, based on the unpopularity of some of those actions.

And look, when President Trump did run on the no wars, he ended up in a war. You know, there are always going to be ramifications to political promises that end up being even if you even if you agree. And you think that it's okay because this is a extraordinary circumstance with what's happening in Iran. There will always be political fallout. It's no new taxes.

It's anything. It's when you make a campaign promise that is largely popular, which is we just got out of the war on terror after 20 years. To then just a few years later, get us back into a conflict in the Middle East. I don't care who it would have been or what the conflict was. It was never going to be popular.

Well, and once again, that's assuming that you know all things are perfect. When you start to look at this, and you're like, "Hey, no new wars." That's that's saying nothing is going to happen. Everything is going to be perfect, and and regardless, I think that's when you look at this once again to the messaging, and I'll continue to say that is that it wasn't explained why this prevents a forever war by taking out the Iranian leadership. It ends a conflict that has been going on since the revolution in Iran when they took Americans hostage. And we had to deal with all that, but then you push that and you try to figure it out, and you get to here, and finally, a President is doing something about something that for 40 years people have been saying we should do something about, and in not messaging it well, of hey, this ends a conflict, it ends the bloodshed of Americans around the world that the Iranians have been pushing, it also ends the threat of a forever war when they have the security of a.

Nuclear weapon that they could use against Israel, the United States, or even. As a defensive weapon, if they were attacked by any of those nations, that it takes that off the table. And in reality, once again, though, I think what did kind of hurt, and it's probably that J.D. Vance was in his ear, and some of these other people, and it kind of became a more moderated approach after the aggressiveness of Operation Midnight Hammer that happened the first time, and then Epic Fury. All of those things started off as.

Like we're going to be very strong and in this quickly, and it delayed itself by starting to become a diplomatic effort. You already got past that with them, and then once again, we we were told that he would stand with the people of Iran. And someone in his ear at some point decided to push that. Hey, we can't actually do anything about that to help the people of Iran, and so the mission changed, the messaging changed, and I think that did deflate some people. Yeah, I want to go to Carl, who's calling, watching on the Salem News Channel.

Carl, again, I'm trying to like counterbalance, make sure we have enough different opinion. A lot of you calling in, and as people, by the way, are on, we'll open up phone lines, so we'll have more availability for you to call in and voice your opinion. Carl in Indiana, go ahead. Hey, thanks, guys. Good morning.

I don't want to change the topic, but what do you think is going to happen to the nuclear material that's under that's buried underground? That that's it's not forgotten about, but it's not talked about either. And you talking about ending the war? War is not going to be ended until you deal with that. Yeah.

But I want to go back to the election. Trump said. To the American public, vote as if I were on the ticket, and they did negatively and positively, but a lot stayed home. Yeah, Carl. I think there, there, you know, it was vote like I am on the ticket.

Then the next day was I wasn't on the ballot. If I was, we would have won huge. I think there was that talking point. I think you are not necessarily wrong. I think the strength of the candidates for the Republican side was pretty weak overall.

I think you saw the strongest ones still prevail. In a lot of these places, especially new voices, like said, what's going on in Florida or here in here in Tennessee, we saw some some pretty big wins for some pretty compelling candidates. You took it to places where you had dynamic candidates from the Democrat side, and you put the same old same old up against them, and you have, like you said, a base that's maybe a little less motivated this time. This is what's going to happen.

Well, one group of people did, in fact, vote as though President Trump were on the ballot, and that were people that were voting Democrat. They showed up in mass and very large numbers, very comparable to a Presidential election year.

So they took his advice and they ran on that, and they won on that. The the people that are more predisposed to vote for a conservative or a Republican candidate did not indeed vote like he was on the ballot in a Presidential election year. And I think that that is once again what we're starting to to really peel back and unravel in that the fact that J.D. Vance. Try to get out so quickly with that narrative that it was about the Iran War is such a disingenuous push.

When first of all, in a midterm election, you're talking about a multitude of issues, local issues, because it isn't a Presidential race. For that very reason, when you're voting for your representative or a senator or even governors. It is more state focused and not national focused. That yeah, it it's never going to be one single issue that causes things to go that way. But when you have the momentum and the strategy that the party, the the Democrats were able to employ here, you start to see that yeah, a lot of people get accidentally elected.

They get swept up into it. There's, I I heard one commentator say you have a lot of accidental Congressmen and women that will be out in two years because their campaign never expected to win. There is one in Tennessee, only spent ninety thousand dollars on the campaign to unseat a more than decade long incumbent, and that individual was someone that was not very conservative and maybe should have lost a long time ago, but was swept up in this. That new Democrat is is probably not going to survive in that seat in two years. Is going to lose election, but accidentally with a extremely low spend, became a member of Congress, and that's what you see here.

Yeah, let's take one more call before we head to break. Let's go. Let's do this with. Let's go to Victor who is calling. I think that's interesting, kind of the short sightedness of American people.

Let's go to Victor in Indianapolis one. Hey, first of all, I want to say that I enjoy your show. Thank you. I I'm just commenting more on one of the comments you've already had this morning about the economy. You know, we had really high inflation for 2020 to 2024.

That doesn't disappear. We can lower the present inflation rate, but what's put there in the past doesn't disappear. And so you put that on top of higher. Wages, especially minimum wage, in a lot of places, especially restaurants. Food prices are going to be higher, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

We're we're stuck with them, and no President can go back and and fix that. Yeah, Victor, I think that's a key point as well. Our economy, the the central bank is based off pegging inflation because it's a heavily debt economy, for better or for worse, depending on your economic predisposition. They target inflation. They want a two percent inflation rate.

That's the ideal inflation.

So, if there's never moments of real deflationary moments, that's typically not seen as good by economists or banks. Having deflation, now prices of certain things can come down, but to your point, year over year is what that nine percent inflation rate was. It was going on and on.

So, even if that rate comes down, it doesn't mean that prices. Then all of a sudden, go down, drop, right? Yeah, unfortunately. Let's continue on. We have another segment coming up.

I do want to hear from you. We have one line now open. Probably have two lines open as we head into the next segment. If you're on hold right now, Chuck in Ohio, Ken in Maryland, Dorothy in Ohio, Ohio representing big today. Elaine in Ohio, stay on hold.

We're gonna get to you. I think we got an Ohio show now. It was locally run by our friends in Ohio. That's what happens when you hire a producer from Ohio and engineer. This we get controlled.

I think these. I think he's. He's screening those calls right now and putting them up, prioritizing them. Are you from Ohio? If not, dumps hangs up.

It has to be. We love our friends in Ohio. It's been a fun few weeks for them too. One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten to get your voice heard on the air today. When we get back, we are going to continue taking your calls.

We're going to move this in many different directions. For a lot of you who are watching right now and wondering what this topic was, maybe you clicked on our YouTube feed and you saw Trump sidelines JD Vance. What are they talking about? I'll restate that when we get back. It's from a post on Truth Social that came out just this morning from President Trump, essentially saying, "JD Vance, I'm moving you.

Stay in your lane. No more around for you. You worry about what's going on domestically, and I'll handle all of what's happening internationally." We've been talking about the fallout from that. When we get back, though, we're going to take your calls and comments. Coming up, support the work of the ACLJ.

ACLJ.org. Your donation will be matched today. We got eight minutes, nine minutes. Actually, got nine minutes and six calls. Can we do it?

We'll find out. Let's try to get through as many as we can.

Some of you've been holding for a while. Let's kick it off with Dorothy, who's been holding the longest in Ohio. Thanks for holding, Dorothy. You're on the air. Yes, I have a comment.

When we've always had Israel's back, there there are everybody in the Middle East. And whenever J.B. Vance wants to go along with defunding Israel, as a Christian, as an American, I I can't handle that. I can't see him trying to negotiate on our behalf or or in Israel's best interest with that even that thought in his head.

So I I'm in total agreement with him. You know, being pulled away from that and going do something else. This this election is just as questionable, even with the flaws that we had in our party, the Republican Party, is just as questionable as 2020. There was no say that pass thanks to, people that didn't want to get rid of the filibuster, knowing that when the Democrats get sworn in, which a lot of them shouldn't be sworn in, they're going to be sworn in on the Koran. Which dis disavows them, acknowledging our constitution.

I am legitimately only cutting you off for time because I want to make sure I get to as many calls as I can. You went over a lot of topics here, some of which we agree with, some of which we disagree with. There have been some pushback on a lot of them, though. Will the one thing I did want to bring up because she mentioned the Save Act? I think in a lot of states, though, it wouldn't have mattered.

If the Save Act were passed or not, because a lot of those demoralizing, right? But a lot of those states already had some of the best protections for their elections because elections are administered by the states.

So you look at Texas as kind of one of the models for election security in this country.

So the Save Act at a federal level wouldn't have necessarily done anything differently in the state of Texas, and we saw how that turned out.

So I think yes. Yes, it's demoralizing. It is demoralizing. It's the same with Israel. People start if if your candidates start wavering based on kind of the tide of social media, I think you will see a fallout from people getting deactivated and deciding, you know what, you're just following whatever the top podcast is in the country, and like that's coming from us, who's also kind of a podcast.

But if your political candidates are that easily swayed, it is a little defeating.

So I totally get it, Dorothy. I totally understand your feelings. Obviously, I agree with you on Israel. I was with a group of people last night, a very pro-Israel group. It was refreshing, and honestly, a little nerve-wracking to be in that room, because I was worried.

Never thought I'd be there in the United States of America, where I'd be worried to be in a public place that was so pro-Israel. Even here in Tennessee, it's pretty wild. I hate that.

Well, let's continue on. Let's go to Chuck now in Ohio. Chuck, go ahead. Yeah, I was just, I was just thinking. I saw a video that was Marco Rubio was speaking in the Senate when he was a senator.

And it looked just like one of the videos in the last month or so, where he was talking about what Iran was going to do. Whereas here lately, he's been talking about what they have been doing. As and it was a a speech that he was given in opposition to, I believe, President Obama loosening sanctions and giving a lot of money to Iran. And I challenge anybody to to watch that video in 2015. I think he's a strong leader, and I think he's just on target then as he is now.

Chuck, I think a lot of people vote. Look, Marco Rubio actually won. Remember, quite a few different elections, and was one of the top contenders back in that 2016 election. He was young at the time, but was neck and neck with President Trump in many of the places. He has been very consistent.

I will say that on a lot of his causes, he is someone that has not wavered.

So far, on much of it, now he obviously will back up what President Trump has to say. That's his job. He has to do that to some instances, but I think you'll see that break away. I mean, look, you will likely not see Marco Rubio in the position he's in. Throughout the rest of the term, that's not usually how it goes.

Not saying anything negative towards him, but if he does plan on a future political run, and just in general, there is always kind of turnover towards the end. That's right. And once again, though, when you saw that statement by J.D. Vance initially, it was kind of like, "Oh, okay, this is the the the gloves are off. They're going to push out Marco Rubio and and make some shifts here." And then what you saw was, "Oh, Stephen Miller is elevated the chief of staff." Oh, okay.

Now J.D. Vance is being sidelined. I think that actually people like Marco Rubio actually have the President's ear in this moment, maybe a little bit more than they did, or they were competing for attention in the past couple months. All right, we're going to continue on. No guarantees.

We'll get to everybody. We're going to try Ken Maryland. Go ahead. I watch set low on the Salem Network. I am an African American man, and I am not supposed to support Trump or any other policies of Republicans.

But let me tell you, I was so frustrated this election because the problem is is the way that the Republicans promote the great things that President Trump has done through executive orders and also the big beautiful bill. For whatever Van Jones was explaining on how the American Accountability Network did what they did, that's what really messed them up. Because you can't, if you go on Google and say, "Tell me the things that President Trump has done in his second term." They'll give you one or two things, and that's it. Yeah, Ken.

Well, it cut me off for time here. 100 agree with you. And by the way, what Vance Jones presented is something that Republicans should be hopefully doing and looking into. It's not an uncommon practice here. These are the real technological changes, the future when it comes to really motivating.

That's grassroots. That's old school grassroots politics in a digital way. Ken, you are 100 right that we fail. Massively on celebrating victories and showing the good that's happening. Republicans can always run.

The Democrats can always run. It's much easier to run as the opposition because no one likes whatever's happening right now, and they always thinking can be done better. But you're 100 right. I'm going to continue on real quick. Let's see here.

Let's jump to Elaine. Elaine, you got like 30 seconds. Go ahead. My comment is. The young people have to stop whining, making forty, fifty thousand a year, and never can afford anything.

Seniors live off a fifteen thousand and have no problem. You never see an empty casino, racetrack, restaurant, football game, Starbucks. And then they wonder why they're always broke and can't afford a home. It's a good comment. A lot of frivolous spending going on, and yeah, I don't necessarily.

There, there are those moments where I look around and be like, "There are a lot of tickets sold for this event." Well, also, and you think about the planned obsolescence we have in our economy as well, where things don't are made to not last. Your phone, you get a new one every year, at least. That's what they want you to do. Good word. We let's go quick, Roy.

She got like twenty seconds, Roy. Go ahead. I've got some friends that are conservatives, and they're all listening to these podcasts online that are saying don't vote. That it doesn't matter who you vote for; they're all evil. But yet the Democrats.

Oh, oh no, we lost you. I don't know what happened. I blame you.

Okay, I just want to look at them. What happened there? I was kind, unkind. What did I blame?

Well, sometimes phone lines drop. Disagree. I don't know. We live in a modern society. Yeah, and you know, technology still not great.

Yeah, printers. It's great. Always broken. Printer is always broken. I got to look at blurry pages.

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